BART Is Already Prepping for Another Longer, More Annoying Strike

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If you haven't marked Aug. 4 on your calendar, do it now. That's the second most important day of the year (your birthday is first, of course). That's the day BART workers either will or will not walk off the job, possibly leaving commuters stranded again -- and for a lot longer this time.

As labor negotiations continue -- and things aren't looking like sweet lemonade and unicorns over there -- BART management is already drawing up contingency plans just in case your train comes to a screeching halt on Aug. 4.

See Also: BART Releases "Fact Sheet" That's Supposed To Make You Feel Better About Looming Strike

According to CBS News, the Metropolitan Transportation Commission is promising that your options will be much better this go around, even if alternatives are pretty limited.

There will be more bus shuttles as well as a fifth departure point at the Concord Station. Also, there will be extra ferry boat in service and AC Transit is already looking at increasing its transbay service, according to CBS.

But let's face it -- no relaxing ferry or chartered shuttle can give you all the things BART can: naked acrobats, live sex shows, and cloth seats.




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aliasetc
aliasetc topcommenter

hey jerry moonbeam no balls,"If they strike, FIRE THEM"

mattharris4
mattharris4

If I ran BART I would already have a replacement worker company (there are several) hiring replacements for all of the greedy current employees.  After two weeks of BART running like a well-oiled machine despite the striking employees efforts they would be begging to come back to work for half salary and reasonable benefits.  Evidently the current management at BART is full of morons and the commuting public in SF and Oakland has to pay for their idiocy.  Carmegeddon coming to a street near you on August 4 or 5, count on it!

pembrokeinstruments
pembrokeinstruments

What is BART management doing to hire backup drivers? MY guess in nothing.

The Management is as bad as the employees.

pembrokeinstruments
pembrokeinstruments

What is BART management doing to hire drivers and keep trains running at some level during a second strike? My guess would be nothing. The management is as worse as the employees.

People should find alternative ways to commute. Only about 5% of all bay area commuters use BART to get to work. It's an expensive and under utilized transit service mostly because people find it expensive, dangerous, and dirty.

pembrokeinstruments
pembrokeinstruments

What is BART management doing to hire drivers and keep trains running at some level during a second strike? My guess would be nothing. The management is as worse as the employees.

People should find alternative ways to commute. Only about 5% of all bay area commuters use BART to get to work. It's an expensive and under utilized transit service mostly because people find it expensive, dangerous, and dirty.

rambunctshit
rambunctshit

Kent....u poor soul. #1. We don't make 71k (don't believe everything uread) #2. We don't get 12k in O.T. #3. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to call in sick & create our own O.T. #4. We do pay into our pension. We are reimbursed for it which was negotiated thru management. #5. Why are you mad because a person with no degree makes decent money? #6. Where u work, does anyone get raises?

kent.london1
kent.london1

This is no returning to slavery. This is me, me, me, pure and simple. There is no job in the market, even in goverment, that requres only GED, pays 71K wage, 12K OT (you can make your own OT by calling in sick then show up for work), benefits worth 50K (no contribution to a good pension, even social security, employees pay 6-7% of they pay) a year, and demanding 5% increase annually (not sure there is 2% cost of living extra). All of these drive us Bart fares. We the public, tax payers, riders have to stop this crazy spiral of Bart fare.

Fairshare
Fairshare

All of us  should ask for our fair share:

if you are a general doctor - request 90% of a surgeon salary.

If your are an Engineer - request 90% pay of a doctor 

If you are bus driver - request 90% pay of an Engineer and so on..

Let's all have 95$ fix pay for medical care for all family members

40 days of holiday and floating holiday

8% raise for the next  three years.

no limit for acrued vacation time

unlimited overtime

And if our managements don't like it - let's go on strike......

If the the company agreed to the requests and went under - it's the management fault. They just did know how to manage company money correctly.

If your work for BART - no worry, be happy - worst case, tax payers will bail you out..... 



Randy Redwood Forsland
Randy Redwood Forsland

It might be easier, if BART's high paid negotiator didn't go on a 2 week vacation. Won't be back until almost the deadline

Robert Impallomeni
Robert Impallomeni

Fire all the bastards. On both sides of the table. Let caltrain run the system. Their trains and staff are far better.

John Lilly
John Lilly

They'll get no sympathy from anyone struggling to get to work for a shitty job that pays half what they make and zero benefits. This goes for both sides.

Mary Littlelamb
Mary Littlelamb

One of the few things I couldn't stand about living in San Francisco. People going on strike all the time to prove their point.. Selfish behavior. They should be happy they have jobs. They make it an inconvenient for people who aren't able to make money water on strike such as servers and entertainers in the city and people trying to get to where they need to go. If you don't like it find another job or move out of the city.

Colin Campbell
Colin Campbell

I'm a Bart employee and I hope all of you get fucked. I want more money

William Dolan
William Dolan

Helll Yes! Let's do this! If you are dependent on a system like BART to get around, for whatever reason, maybe you need to look introspectively instead of demonizing a labor force trying to maintain a livable wage and life for themselves and their families. Get over it, make other arrangements, that's life.

Eric Carlson
Eric Carlson

^ great if we all could decide what's "fair" for ourselves!

kayvaan
kayvaan

If it continues in to Outside Lands festival (Aug 9-11) we'll see a traffic fustercluck of epic proportions.

Liz Wendel
Liz Wendel

Is it "annoying" to want fair pay - so much for the "liberal" media

Steven Hieger
Steven Hieger

The only people who are f*cked are us commuters...Brown needs to intervene...

Jorge Junior
Jorge Junior

Fuck Bart workers. straight up. They should be thankful they even have a job. An already WAY over paid job at that.

RemyMarathe
RemyMarathe

@mattharris4 That would be great.  Unfortunately, the BART labor contract stipulates that no one can drive a train unless they've been through a 12 week training course.  And no one can enter the training course unless they're in the union.

So, basically, BART management has to wait until the strike starts (which nullifies the contract) and then start training people; 3 months later, they can drive the trains.

The union has us by the balls, basically.

kent.london1
kent.london1

@rambunctshit on #1. Unions never chanllege these compensation numbers, which are in the Bart Fact Sheet. on #3, That's why the avearge days off for union workers is 40 plus days. These days, get trnaslted into overtime. on p#4. you said you paid into pension then you said you get reimburse. Does that equal to not paying into penions? #5, I/we are not mad just beause no degree. Mark Zukerberg of Facebook does not have a degree either. The point is that you have to earn it. You are getting this way above market wage/OT/frienge by holding the public hostage, and the public pays the rasom money. #6, Yes, in my company, when you reach a point in the pay range, you don't get a raise. In Bart's case, union workers are already grossly overpaid. Raise is not an entitlement.  

rambunctshit
rambunctshit

Kent baby....check this one out. We don't make 71k a year.... (don't believe the hype, the media wants u to hate us and wants u to believe that we really do make that much)

We don't make 11k in O.T.

O.T. isnt actually always available but when it is, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to call in sick and create our own O.T.

We do pay our own pension, then we are reimbursed for it. That was something that management negotiated years ago. Now its being used against us? C'mon Kent......don't buy into all they say.

Be mad at the past two general managers one didn't work one day of the year and made over 300,000 and the other one got fired from Seattle came here and was fully vested after 2 years. BE MAD AT THEM.

and I'm curious where you work do people not get raises? or is everybody cool making with a made in 1999?

kent.london1
kent.london1

@Randy Redwood Forsland , I believe this guy is off from July 25th to July 28th, 4 days, including Saturday and Sunday. The meeting starts again Tuesday the 30th. Am not trying to be smart, just there have been so much misinformation out there.

nobiggovduh
nobiggovduh

@Mary Littlelamb You sound like you want the return of slavery.

They are actual people who unlike you, know that you are not the center of the universe.

aliasetc
aliasetc topcommenter

You're an asshole, you schmuck!

nobiggovduh
nobiggovduh

@Eric Carlson They are a group. And if you where not so lazy you would start your own union.

nobiggovduh
nobiggovduh

@Eric Carlson If they worked hard to goto work without being out why shouldn't they get some money for that when they are old.


Managers are not union members btw.

jm002
jm002

@Jorge Junior clearly you are misinformed about what the real issues are.

kent.london1
kent.london1

As you said, "Don't buy into all they say". The current GM was not fired from Seattle, check it out.  There is no doubt Bart management is overpaid, but not as massive as union workers. Today's Contra Costa Time's payroll data analysis says Bart is the highest paid transporation agency in the entire California, far more than the #2. Average gross in 2012 for union worker was $76K. Highest paid train "operator" (computer contorlled, for god's sake) grossed $155K.

At where I work, an employee reaches a certain point of his pay range, he does not get a raise, because he is already overpaid. Union workers at Bart has been overpaid since when. Even if you don't get a raise for 5 more years, you still have not catched up. I think union workers are 80 to 100% above market rates. In the last years, there have been 1800 union openings. Guess how many people applied? 65 thousand, because your pay is soo good.

aliasetc
aliasetc topcommenter

You're an asshole also

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