Supervisor Scott Wiener Wants Sports and Music Fans to Pay More to Help Muni

Old Muni car.jpg
This train is so old you'd think it was going to Woodstock
If you're still recovering from the fact you had to dip into your savings to see the Rolling Stones play in San Francisco earlier this month, well consider yourself lucky that you didn't have to shell out even more money for your ride to the show.

Supervisor Scott Wiener today is planning to ask his colleagues to consider a new plan to tack on extra fees for anyone who is buying a ticket to a sporting event, concert, or any other major event. Those extra fees would go toward Muni.

First step is to have the controller assess this transit surcharge, looking at a range of fees that would generate more money for Muni which badly needs the cash to replace the light-rail vehicles that are getting kinda dumpy.

Wiener noted that as it stands, Muni is overworked and underpaid (sound familiar?). It's especially taxed when there's a Giants game and fans literally pile in the trains to catch a glimpse of Lincecum's new haircut.

"With the addition of the new arena, the strain on Muni service will be even more severe. Now is the time to shore up the system so that people can easily get to sports and concert events, while everyone else in the city can get where they're going," Wiener said in a statement. "The two shouldn't be mutually exclusive."

A modest fee should resolve that problem, he says.

Preliminary estimates show that this "modest fee" would raise between $3 million and $22 million annually for Muni reliability, of course, totally depending on the size of the events and the level of surcharge assessed. But those numbers were calculated based on a fee ranging from $1 to $3 for events that had between 1,000 and 5,000 people.

To put these annual amounts in context, an extra $22 million would allow Muni to buy four brand-new light rail vehicles a year or rehabilitate 18 annually. As of now, the transit agency has no spare light-rail vehicles, which explains a lot.

Venues to be included in the Controller's study: AT&T Park and the proposed Warriors arena -- which have estimated combined attendances over 5.5 million; large outdoor festivals like Outside Lands and Treasure Island Music Festival, which draw over 200,000 attendees annually; and several entertainment venues like the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium and the Fillmore, which draw up to a combined 1.6 million people per year.

"Right now Muni is at a breaking point," Wiener astutely noted.

Correction: An earlier version of this story erroneously stated the additional fees would be tacked onto Muni tickets. The fees will be added to event tickets upon purchase. Those fees will then be used for Muni.





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elizabethfrantes
elizabethfrantes

Well, one way to make money for mass transit is to end all cars for city employees, and end all free parking, free bus passes, etc.  If they must have a car for their job, let them pay the same rate as those who pay their salary.  Think of the billions we'd get in parking revenues alone, when all those choice spots given away free get 'market rate' and if 'market rate' is good enough for housing, it's something that should directly impact our leaders.  Why should they get free rides and demand everyone else pay more, and insist that we take the bus while they get free cars, with drivers in many cases, and free parking.  Now, I mean everyone, from the mayor on down.  Only emergency vehicles and working vehicles such as trucks that are used ONLY on the job allowed. 

fonssagrives
fonssagrives

One question I have is what level of fare evasion is taking place during big events. I realize Caltrain is a different kettle of fish, but I used to ride the train daily and it was very noticeable that conductors never checked tickets when the train was packed full of riotous drunk Giants fans. If Muni is in a similar situation, it's deeply unfair to other riders that out-of-town concert and game-goers should overload the system without chipping in.

mrericsir
mrericsir topcommenter

Because if there's one thing Muni needs, is more complexity in their rate structure.

dontbelieveinsanta
dontbelieveinsanta

Do those Muni, AC or any bus driver really make $60,000 per year or are they contract drivers making $10 per hour?  These days, many of those good paying jobs with benefits are being contracted out, to contractors that keep the big money for themselves and pay pittance wages to actual workers. 

塞繆塞繆
塞繆塞繆

Muni should not charge us more for going festivals concert and game. They should fuckin stop spending money!

triple4prod
triple4prod

Weiner is off the rails (pun intended). This is one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in, the Muni is an organization that is corruopt and mismanaged and it is entirely their own fault they have no money. The average Muni driver makes upwards of $60K a year and there are no incentives for them to be on time, to be efficient or to even be safe. Until they fix the entire Muni program there is simply no way they should be raising fares on anyone, especially considering they're raising regular fares in July, just a year after they did so. In Seattle it costs $2.50 to take the Light Rail from the airport to Downtown. In SF $8.75. I understand BART is a different entity altogether, but the income disparity in this town is significant. 

Is it Scott Weiner's intention to run everyone that doesn't work for a bank, Google, Twitter or Facebook out of town?  His impact on this city for better or worse has been marred by attention grabbing stunts. Perhaps it's time that he is voted out. I'm sick of seeing his name (though I agree with the nudity ban) and the idiocy that follows. 

Christopher P. Ralph
Christopher P. Ralph

Weiner used to be one of the few sensible supes. "Vat is ze purpose ov your trip on ze bus, comrade?"

Antonio J. Solano
Antonio J. Solano

Why are they doing this to us? We enjoy doing something fun and social they gotta tax it. Fuck that I'm biking everywhere from now on.

Todd Ganser
Todd Ganser

So, these pinheads push us to take mass transit to concerts and sporting events...now they want to charge us more? Typical SF.

Mike Basham
Mike Basham

i wonder if that dick of a supervisor was behind the $12 MUNI fare the morning of Bay to Breakers?

elizabethfrantes
elizabethfrantes

@dontbelieveinsanta  Considering all the insane traffic and bad craziness on the bus itself, it's a very hard way to make a living, and I doubt anyone who thinks they are "overpaid" could do it. 

triple4prod
triple4prod

@dontbelieveinsanta They're unionized labor makes $60K a year to start. I believe per their contract they aren't allowed to contract out. Otherwise there would be more penalties for their insistence on being late. 

elizabethfrantes
elizabethfrantes

@triple4prod Harvey Milk would bitchslap the stupid out of Weinie if he hadn't been bumped off by FineSwine.  Sure, Dan White took the fall, but only she needed Harvey dead, because he never would have let her get away with what she's done.  Maybe he should be called FeinWeinie?  He's her in drag.  But prettier.

baklazhan
baklazhan

@triple4prod The cost to get to the airport isn't particularly relevant to anyone who's not an airport worker... make a better comparison.

One advantage BART has is that it's 64% funded by fares. Seattle light rail is 20%. The difference is made up with subsidies. Now, maybe we should dedicate more tax money to transit, so it can run with lower fares, but I think first priority should be to improve service.

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