Supervisor Scott Wiener to Introduce Legislation Forcing Nudists to Wear Clothes

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Scott Wiener doesn't want to see your wiener anymore
The debate over public nudity has finally come to a head.

Supervisor Scott Wiener says he plans to introduce legislation later today that will seriously restrict public nudity in San Francisco. According to the plan, naked men (and women, if there are any) would no longer be allowed to flap freely in city plazas, parklets, sidewalks, streets, and public transit.

So basically, everywhere.

Nudity would be allowed at places and events where you go to see naked people -- Folsom Street Fair, Bay to Breakers, Pride parade, or your own backyard.

See also: Here's How S.F. Nudists Would Dress, if They Did Wear Clothes.

Wiener blames his draconian move on one too many wieners walking around. According to the District 8 supervisor, there's been a "sharp increase in public nudity in the Castro, including an almost-daily ad-hoc nudist colony at Jane Warner Plaza."

Per Wiener:
While most people in San Francisco, myself included, have no problem with occasional public nudity, we've seen a shift in public attitude because of the over-the-top situation at Jane Warner Plaza and elsewhere in the Castro. Until recently, public nudity in our city was mostly limited to various street festivals and beaches as well as the occasional naked person wandering the streets.  What's happening now is different. Jane Warner Plaza is the only usable public space in the Castro and serves as the neighborhood's town square.  Use of this small but important space as a near-daily nudist colony, while fun for the nudists, is anything but for the neighborhood as a whole.  This plaza and this neighborhood are for everyone, and the current situation alienates both residents and visitors.  We are a tolerant neighborhood and city, but there are limits.
Wiener swears he wasn't out to get nudists; he tried to allow the exhibitionism to run its course, but instead, the situation "has gotten more extreme. Many in the community have reached the end of their rope," Wiener says.

Watch the Castro Theatre manager freak out on these nudists:



If the legislation passes, anyone busted without clothes on in public will be subjected to a $100 fine -- the first time. That penalty will double if they're spotted sans clothing again in the same one-year period. If that still isn't reason enough to get dressed, a third offense will amount to either a $500 fine or a misdemeanor citation. But here's the silver lining: If convicted, you won't have to register as a sex offender, Wiener says.  
 
"The goal here isn't to punish people, but rather to get them to put their clothes on," Wiener explains.  

Oh, and don't worry, Noe Valley moms, this legislation won't apply to children under 5.

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ministermonkee
ministermonkee

If you don't want to see naked people in public, I suggest you move to Walnut Creek or Belmont.   Don't bring your uptight, puritanical values to San Francisco.

TimChizmar
TimChizmar

@aanr_nudist I always try to tell people this.. It's not really allowed as people get nasty when u do it!

bison_strangler
bison_strangler

I agree with Lisa. Nudity is fine at Black's Beach, or maybe at special events where we know about it in advance, but otherwise I want to be able to walk anywhere in SF without seeing a bunch of middle aged exhibitionists showing off their junk, including the Castro.

Captain_Beefheart
Captain_Beefheart

Everyone in San Francisco likes freedom, but almost no one here likes to acknowledge the implications of their actions. The nudists had a good thing going, but they didn't know when to quit, and they ruined it for everyone -- themselves, future nudists, and oglers alike. 

Annie Southworth
Annie Southworth

Let me get this straight because clearly my IQ isn't up to par with yours, Lisa: Your personal issues with not being able to visit the Castro because there is the potential to see a live wiener are more or at least equally important than violent crime in San Francisco? In economic times when police presence is frighteningly low, crimes go unsolved almost as a rule in San Francisco and when caught, criminals go un-prosecuted?

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

If I was on a date and a man pulled out his penis, that would equate to a sex crime. And when I'm walking down the street and see a penis (even if I look away it's too late) it is just as offending.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

I said Annie was an idiot because she said she was not speaking for anyone else when in fact she did. And wasn't able to see it. Yes, idiots irritate me.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

I'm cutting and pasting Christaper Sings's comment and sending to a few sites that focus on violence against women and see what they think...

Christraper Sings
Christraper Sings

"As a woman, I am intimidated and uncomfortable in the Castro now. The penis can be a beautiful thing but it's also a weapon. It's used in rape." Worst argument against the nudists, ever.

Vtamariz
Vtamariz

Thank you!!! Talk about empty store fronts?! How about I now when I AVOID Castro st so I do not have to see these wankers. How about when I have to explain to my kids what the hell is going on. And why here?! If they want to be naked why for some reason is it at the corner of Castro and Market?? Is it a nudist "energy vortex" or something?

southernbeefinsf
southernbeefinsf

STOP!  I am really tired of Scott Wiener focusing on petty things in my neighborhood.  Scott, look at all of the empty store fronts, look at the homeless that I know by name for the last 10 years of living here.....and you are worried about a little Wiener?  

Glen Jasper
Glen Jasper

"...blathering" "...idiot"- very nice Ms Huckabee. Denigrate other people's opinions, because you're right, and everyone else is wrong? Well, that's just lovely. When Wiener spends time on this issue, it detracts from real issues. When Mar spends time going after a stripper truck, he is neglecting important City business. Or is that too logical for you? But please, tell everyone else what to do, and continue to do it in such a lovely, intelligent manner, because everyone loves being insulted, right? All sarcasm intended, in case you're not able to ascertain tonality of remarks.

commonsenseSF
commonsenseSF

Aren't there more important things Wiener can focus on? He needs to take his sexual hangups out on a psychologist, not the people of San Francisco.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

That has be deliniated. Those would be designated areas, so no one would go "after" them. Conversation with an idiot over.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

As a woman, I am intimidated and uncomfortable in the Castro now. The penis can be a beautiful thing but it's also a weapon. It's used in rape. If you look at classes on sexual harassment, men's views and women's view are quiet different.

Annie Southworth
Annie Southworth

How much time do you guys actually spend in the Castro where this is an issue? You guys going to go after nudity at Folsom Street Fair, Dore Alley, Castro Street Fair? Again, I don't particularly care for random naked men crossing my path but it doesn't offend me and as a long time San Francisco resident, it's not something that I'd like to see go away. I love the weird, I love the wild and I love that San Francisco is accepting of alternative lifestyle choices, artists, weirdos, freaks and that's what has made San Francisco what is is for all these years.

clion
clion

These guys aren't nudists, they're exhibitionists: "Hey, look at me! I'm naked!"  They're hanging around public areas so people will see them and take their picture.  The whole weird-for-weird's sake has been played out. We get it. You go by your own set of rules. Look at you, trailblazer... 

 

jaxon78
jaxon78

So... according to Mr. Weiner, one weiner in the city was okay, two were alright... but now we have too many hanging around. He's not very clear on why this has to be an "all or nothing" proposition, and frankly I'd rather err on the side of personal freedom than a complete ban on public nudity.  Come on, people... this is San Francisco. There were naked people before Mr. Weiner took office, and there will likely be naked people after he's voted out. If we're going to start legislating people's style of dress, I say that we start with CROCS...

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

Glen I don't think you are gay. I don't see a comarison between homosexual love and standing around with your dick handing out.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

You can tackle both. The Tenderloin and nudity. That is why we have representatives.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

Look at the comments from people who live in The Castro attatched to the video in the article, the majority who live there do not like it.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

It's not a matter of one issue being more important than another. The nudity has bothered me for a long time. Lord have mercy. I lived in the TL 8 years and know murders went unreported. What are you blathering about?

Glen Jasper
Glen Jasper

How about everyone actually focusing on problems in the City, like the Tenderloin? We want cops spending time on nudists? I thought SF was supposed to be a live and let live kind of place. I remember a time when public displays of affection between gays offended some people's snsibilities. Should that be legislated by Mr. Wiener? Puritanical sensibilities are sadly outdated. Who elected the Supervisors to be morality police?

Annie Southworth
Annie Southworth

The people I know and spend time with, of which there are many don't care. I'd say most people don't care. You think this is an issue that is more important than say the escalating rapes and muggings that aren't getting reported by the SF Weekly or any other local news outlet? With limited resources, this is not a priority. And no one is walking around with a boner for the person who said that. And I might as well have been raised here, close enough, Santa Cruz and I've lived here steadily since 1992, but started spending a lot of time here in high school and the years directly after, Lisa. No need to get cunty, either, we're discussing here. If you are worried about public penis' due to your sexual assault it won't comfort you that clothed men do the bulk of the assaulting. I know 5 women that have been attacked in the mission in the past 3-4 months, there is an epidemic that needs more attention than naked gay men in the Castro. That, I care about. I won't speak for you or anyone else, but when it hits close to home like it has, that and other violent crimes like the escalating violent muggings and armed robberies take priority over naked guys.

Christraper Sings
Christraper Sings

@jonas (nice) I'm not fond of the exhibitionist convention, either. I just believe there should be other solutions besides making it illegal.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

You said, "No one cares". That is speaking for everyone. Maybe your I.Q. can't grasp that?

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

I'm sticking to reporting from grown ups. Bye Bye SF Weekly. You should hire better.

André Bruinsma
André Bruinsma

Truly depressing if supporting the pathetic need to exhibit oneself in public is now filed under keeping the city "vibrant". There are plenty of cities, outside AND inside the US where healthy music/art scenes thrive without accommodating the basest calls for attention at the discomfort of many others. And let me say this as a SF-born resident -- it's actually this reflexive tendency to defend exhibitionists that mirrors a pretentious art scene. Part of supporting the arts is to practice some discernment.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

I give a shit Annie, agan stop speaking for the rest of us. How old are you? I want MY city back and I'm a friggin' liberal.

Mitch Lopez
Mitch Lopez

Thank god. If my 3yr old has to see a gross old man boner I'm going to rage! We shouldn't be forced to see someone naked if we don't want to. Some people are better seen clothed.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

Oh Erin is from Texas. No wonder she's biased. "Freak out..." that's heavy hitting intellectualism at work!

Annie Southworth
Annie Southworth

Jonas it's all encompassing, in my opinion. Who gives a shit if a guy is naked? It's funny, ridiculous, very San Francisco as well as not harming anyone. This city has enough ACTUAL UNSOLVED VIOLENT CRIME that police should be focusing on, not some old naked dudes walking around the Castro.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

Oh Erin's female. Hmmm, she looks as young as her writing is over-simplified. It's my City, I live here. Was she born here? Did she walk the streets of Castro as a child?

buscotica
buscotica

My body, my choice. Keep your laws away from me. How does beign naked hurt anybody? If people don't like it, that really is their problem. Maybe they should consider living in another town.

Lisa Huckabee
Lisa Huckabee

Erin Sherbert has biased reporting. Instead of saying "freak out" he could have said the Castro Theater Manager became "upset". Or "engraged". Which he should because having his theater as the backdrop makes it look to the viewer as if he's indorsing it. It's all about perception. Every journalist knows that.

douglas
douglas

also, why do people always say nudity is prevalent and accepted in europe?  have these people even been to europe.  there are at least 773 million people in europe with a variety of beliefs and cutlures includng over 53 muslims.  please stop making generationalizations about europe - you are only showing your ignorance.

Jeff.
Jeff.

Clothes were invented to keep us warm.  Then the became styled to help us all look better to each other.  As a San Francisco resident, the styled portion of clothing is what i want these naked guys to participate in.  Its not fun having lunch on the side walk with a 60 year old butt 5 feet away..

Jonas Halpren
Jonas Halpren

@Annie THEY DO SIT ON PUBLIC BENCHES MUNI ETC.... and how lame to immediately blame this on "new" money? whatever that means and then rant about the arts and music changing. Seems to be plenty of art, music, food, creativity going on here. The creativity will not be drained from the city if these guys put on pants.

douglas
douglas

thank you scott.  i am sure some of the architects of this social experiment had good intentions, but, as someone who lives in the neighborhood, the social experiment has failed.   i personally have stopped shopping on castro street for the last few months as i watched the demographics quickly from less locals and less diversity to more and more old fat naked white men from the surbubs actly badly.  i look forward to dinner at a movie in the neighborhood again.  thanks for giving me back my neighborhood. 

Annie Southworth
Annie Southworth

I've lived in San Francisco 25 years. I'm sorry if seeing naked men stresses you out but they really are just bodies. No one is wagging anything in your face and if it bothers you, you have the right to look away. I live in the Castro and have for many years, I don't like seeing saggy old man penis particularly but it doesn't offend me either. What I don't like even more is new residents to our beautiful city shutting down art, music, and yes liberal minded long time San Francisco residents and the freedoms that have made this city what is it is even long before my time. It starts with saggy man penis and ends with venues being shut down by idiots who move into a neighborhood that has a clubs or bars and restaurants zoned for and making it even harder on the small business owners. I've seen it done time and time again and it's upsetting. I'm sorry but living in a city is never going to be peace and quiet and people need to remember that this isn't a suburb, it's a beautiful, noisy, alive and vibrant city! And no, @lisa I'm not speaking for everyone, I'm speaking for me!

Andy Freeman
Andy Freeman

The marketing for this should be "Please, Cover Your Junk."

voltairesmistress
voltairesmistress

 @southernbeefinsf Normally, I would agree with you.  Scott has a penchant for the absurd detail.  He legislates EVERYTHING.  But this has become a problem for a great number of people with children in tow.  I'm not sure if my nieces (15 and 11) would be okay with these naked guys on the plaza.  Maybe it would be fine, but I don't want to expose them to a potentially disturbing experience the images of which might bother them for a long time, so I keep them away from Jane Warner Plaza.  (Just as I keep the youngest away from seeing the worst of the Tenderloin.)  Unless and until nudity in public become common and acceptable, I think it's okay to legislate this.

IP_freely
IP_freely

 @southernbeefinsf You think this is all he is working on? Get a grip. I am one of the Castro residents who has complained to his office about this. It would be nice if I could sit in the plaza on a day like today and not see someone's bhole.

Yes there are a lot of other problems that need and get attention - this is just one of them

MisterDaikon
MisterDaikon

 @buscotica If you don't like anti-nudity statutes, maybe *you* should consider living in another town.

 

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