Cyclist Allegedly Leaves Comments About Accident After Hitting Pedestrian

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Prosecutors have not yet field charges against the cyclist who allegedly ran a red light in the Castro, hitting and killing 71-year-old Sutchi Hui as he walked along Market Street last week.

But as SF Appeal notes today, prosecutors are looking at comments made on a local cycling forum by someone using the name Chris Bucchere, who identified himself as the cyclist involved in the accident.

Here's what Bucchere reportedly posted on Mission Cycling, a local biking group:

The light turned yellow as I was approaching the intersection, but I was already way too committed to stop. The light turned red as I was cruising through the middle of the intersection and then, almost instantly, the southern crosswalk on Market and Castro filled up with people coming from both directions. I couldn't see a line through the crowd and I couldn't stop, so I laid it down and just plowed through the crowded crosswalk in the least-populated place I could find," he continued. "I don't remember the next five minutes but when I came to, I was in a neck brace being loaded into an ambulance. I remember seeing a RIVER of blood on the asphalt, but it wasn't mine. Apparently I hit a 71-year-old male pedestrian and he ended up in the ICU with pretty serious head injuries. I really hope he ends up OK.

Hui, a San Bruno resident, died Tuesday afternoon. The medical examiner has not yet confirmed the cause of death.

Bucchere, who was treated at the hospital, also indicated that the lessons learned from this is that cyclists should always wear a helmet -- as he was that day. But that comment only incited another member on the forum to tell him what the real lesson is: Cyclists should slow down, "especially when blasting through busy parts of town during rush hour."

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Mark Duncan
Mark Duncan

In all seriousness, everyone owes it to society to pay attention on the road. People are going to screw up, and the sheer number of people in a city means that you put your life in jeopardy when you ignore this reality. Lots of people are killed every year in traffic accidents, few are ever considered manslaughter cases, and the rarest of all are any deaths related to bicycles. This fact won't help this man's family, or the cyclist who will forever know he played a part in ending a person's life (believe me, chances are better than good that this matters to him). If he was reckless, then he should be punished. But, in truth that's a very tricky intersection and a cyclist has to make a lot of choices as he approaches and the light changes—not everyone makes the right choice 100% of the time. 

Pedal_Power
Pedal_Power

Was the cyclist riding a track bike?  That is, a fixed gear bike that in unskilled hands can be very difficult to stop quickly?  Certainly some of the street version fixed gears bike come equipped with a front brake or front/rear rim brakes to supplement the traditional methods of stopping a track bike.  And no disrespect to those who can stop their track bikes coming off an SF hill. Still, I can't imagine another kind of bike that couldn't be brought to a stop in the distance across Market Street, especially if that cyclist hadn't mastered the art form.

LorFalcon
LorFalcon like.author.displayName 1 Like

I see a lot of comments about how fast the bike was going. But none so far as to HOW FAST A 71 YEAR OLD PERSON COULD GET INTO THE INTERSECTION. Seriously, a man died and it was a direct disregard for pedestrian safety that made it happen. The cyclist himself saw yellow  AS HE WAS APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION. That should have made him slow down and stop, but he was going to fast, he was "committed."

It might have been fated, but it could have been avoided.

guest
guest

Thats if the like was really yellow. most likely he just says if was yellow to say his own ass. if there were that many people in the crosswalk most likely the light was not yellow but red. remember this guy killed someone. you can break mans law but you can't break Gods law.

909Jeff
909Jeff

God? 

Isnt that a dirty word in SF? 

Elizabethfrantes
Elizabethfrantes

To quote Hellgirl:  Perhaps it is time to give death a try?

Danielle Russell
Danielle Russell like.author.displayName 1 Like

You killed a man because you are not following the traffic lights, I don't care if it is just a bicycle, you must pay damages to his family. Better be careful not to kill again with your bicycle.

4057
4057

I think congress should hold a vigil and perhaps wearhelmets to represent the slain. And I’ve always thought we should pass more bicyclecontrol laws to prevent such senseless violence. Has the news or the representatives in congress said anything aboutthis being a hate crime yet?

Joshconnors1992
Joshconnors1992 like.author.displayName 1 Like

I've seen too many bicyclists totally ignore stop signs, traffic signals and the posted speed limit.  As if they don't apply to them.  As we can see in this sad story, bikes can be as deadly as a motor vehicle.  Bicyclists have to obey the same laws we do when we drive.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Or thinking back to kindergarten, people can look both ways before crossing the street... I know its a lot to ask for people to be responsible for themselves but maybe we ought to try it out? 

Elizabethfrantes
Elizabethfrantes like.author.displayName 1 Like

Uh, he had the light, and the bike was moving very fast, and in all likelyhood was concealed by vehicles.  Maybve you ought to try out being impaired, like being blind, being crippled, etc. 

e_dog
e_dog

So it was the dead man's responsibility to look out for the biker's irresponsibility?

909Jeff
909Jeff

Assuming the biker was irresponsible... I suppose we'll find out if the DA files Charges.  Do you even know if the cyclist was cited? 

Or are you just piling on like everyone else... Its always easy to defend the popular sentiment why don't you take an aside and view it differently... 

The pedestrian irresponsibly stepped out in front of a cyclist ultimately causing his own death and injuries to the cyclist... Why is this not a reasonable theory? 

Or would it be that you are stereotyping all cyclist as the same?  So I suppose then I can say I have ridden the 30 bus through Chinatown and a lot of Asians step out into traffic without looking therefore ALL Asians blindly step into traffic... Sounds silly doesn't it? And it is.  So why would it be any different when applied to cyclist... You, Guest, and the dumb ass yankees fan up there on the message board have all let a negative pre-conceived notions of cyclists in the city form your opinion of the events. 

909Jeff
909Jeff

Are you calling the beautiful city of San Francisco an asshole? 

909Jeff
909Jeff

What are you talking about? 

Now youre just blathering..

909Jeff
909Jeff

But you NEED me there!

guest
guest

you haven't played no one fooool!

guest
guest

go away!!! we don't want you here

guest
guest

cab driver have nothing to do with this. stop trying to shift focus away from your own arrogance.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Actually a split timer... I live in So cal but have a place to stay in the Marina... You should be in love with that... Call it a voluntary redistribution of wealth. 

qantrain
qantrain

Hey Jeff I'm gonna guess you're a transplant...right? Go back to wherever you from

909Jeff
909Jeff

I am kinda guilty too... back in the mid 90s I was hauling ass down Haight on a Mt Bike and a car pulled out from a garage, Blammo.. right over the hood.   

e_dog
e_dog like.author.displayName 1 Like

The one time I was doored it was by a cab, so I'm not going to disagree with you there, but my scariest experiences (on a bike or on foot) have mostly involved private autos.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Holy crap! 

Where did you see me say anything racist? I made an inane comparison in order to make a point. 

Oh wait i used a big word: Inane - Adj; Silly; Stupid; Not Significant 

All I did was pose an alternate theory of the events and because I chose to side with the cyclist version you take offense to that.  Sorry you have no sense of logic and or critical thinking.  But hey typical for the city... Always so diverse and tolerant... Unless someone disagrees with you.  

I'm fine with civil discourse... e_dog rationally responded and I thanked him for it... I didnt even mind the jump down off my cross crack... Well played e_dog! 

Youre just unhinged and irrational. 

Thanks I guess?

909Jeff
909Jeff

HA! 

Thanks for the response... I'm a mt biker not a road cyclist and when I'm in the city I generally take a cab, Which I hope we both agree that cab drivers are the real threat!

Another Guest
Another Guest

"...almost instantly, the southern crosswalk on Market and Castro filled up with people coming from both directions. I couldn't see a line through the crowd and I couldn't stop, so I laid it down and just plowed through the crowded crosswalk in the least-populated place I could find," he continued.

Why don't you READ the article once again, especially the above paragraph and then begin your mindless tirade about irresponsible people.  Oh, and how nice of you to be a racist on top of being a complete tool.  Let me take a wild guess and say that you are a bike rider yourself and you have no shame about breaking laws and feel a sense of entitlement.  GET OVER YOURSELF!  I hope that your parents are dead as well because you are posting ignorant and uneducated comments and I am embarrassed for them.    FYI - everyone can cut and paste paragraphs so I hope you are offended, because you are not a smart person. 

p.s.  GROW A BRAIN and GROW UP. 

e_dog
e_dog like.author.displayName 1 Like

By his own admission, the cyclist was riding too fast to stop at the light, but too slow to clear the intersection before pedestrians entered the intersection. So he was riding at an irresponsible speed.

And I know it's Good Friday and all, but feel free to step down off your Cross of the Stereotyped Cyclist. I've been a bike commuter in two major cities and several small cities, and I'll fully attest that it is fun to go fast -- there is an adrenaline rush to be had, and it is a bummer to stop, especially at the bottom of a hill. But it's not an excuse, morally or otherwise.

guest
guest like.author.displayName 1 Like

...or maybe the cyclist could NOT be so SELFISH and come to a full stop. If he was in a car he would be charged with manslaughter. Cyclists have the same rights as motor vehicle BUT they don't want to follow the same rules that those rights come with. How would you like it if that was one of your grandparents? A human life is lost and all some people care about some stupid anticar movement. SHAME ON YOU

909Jeff
909Jeff

"The light turned red as I was cruising through the middle of the intersection"

In California, as long as you have legally entered the intersection while the light is green or yellow you are okay. The definition of entering the intersection is a part of your vehicle crossing the lines defined by the actual intersection of road space.

So Guest... No it wouldn't have been manslaughter... Apparently you don't have a drivers license or conveniently forgot that part... Shame on me... Why the law supports my opinion!

909Jeff
909Jeff

Thats not true... Posted the law as its written... I didnt just make this shit up its called research... Let me propose it to you this way... You are at an intersection and the light is green and you are turning left.  You enter into the intersection and wait for the oncoming traffic to stop before completing your left turn... If the light turns red and you are still in the intersection, is that illegal? 

The answer is NO because the state's vehicle code (Notice I said the states code not my opinion, not common knowlegde, not my roomates brother's uncle said...) says that as long as your vehicle breaks the plane of the intersection and there is nothing blocking the other side you did not commit an infraction. Period end of story.... 

As far as you getting all pissy and calling me names for defending the injured cyclist... It don't bother me much... You already proved your ignorant. 

Elizabethfrantes
Elizabethfrantes

Jeffyweffy, there is nothing wrong with you a serial killer can't cure.  I'm sure your grandparents would deny any relations with you, and if I were your purported daddy, I'd ask for a paternity test.  And you got the law WRONG. 

Elizabethfrantes
Elizabethfrantes

Uh, no.  You have to be able to clear the intersection (no blocking the box) and you must not exceed speed reasonable for the conditions, which was the main problem.  A lot of folks don't know that the speed limit depends on circumstances and you can be violating the law if you are at the posted speed limit or below  ..

909Jeff
909Jeff

that last line actually made me laugh! 

Other than that I know its absolutely ludicrous that any one dare suggest any level of personal responsibility... How dare I???? 

LN_Smithee
LN_Smithee

"God forbid"? How about "Logic forbid"? "A fair assessment of the facts as we know them forbid"? Hell, with all the nonsense you're blowing into your seat cushion, you might as well suggest that because Hui was Chinese, it was his fault for trying to stop Bucchere with a Kung Fu kick!

909Jeff
909Jeff

Another lemming rushing to judgement... God forbid the guy crossing the road my be in any way complicit... 

LN_Smithee
LN_Smithee like.author.displayName 1 Like

What kind of nonsense is "well he didn't escape unharmed either"?  Yeah, that's right Jeff. Bucchere got knocked out cold and woke up to find his beloved helmet destroyed.  Terry Hui got knocked out cold and didn't wake up.  It was Hui's wife who lost her beloved husband. So, they both got hurt!  Let's call it even and not "scapegoat anyone."

Spoken like someone who either defends people who hurt people on a regular basis or who hurts people himself.

909Jeff
909Jeff

All I'm saying is in Kindergarten you were taught to look both ways before you cross the street... There is enough blame to go around.  Unfortunately like almost any other similar situation you are looking to scapegoat someone.  In this case its the cyclist... Well he didnt escape unharmed either... I think there is enough blame to go around. 

Embur12
Embur12 like.author.displayName 1 Like

My heart cries for the deceased... really Jeff. The reality is that is stupid pedestrians are going to walk out in front of you, and you probably know that you'll either have to swerve to miss them or stop. He was committed... meaning his speed was so freaking fast he could in no way brake in time. Pedestrians in every major city follow the herd and cross. Again common knowledge. In this bikers mind, the worst that thing that might happen is he tags someone and breaks a collar bone(his or theirs). The steep grades found in your city are a reality that has to be dealt with by the guy on the bike. After all, he was just picking a place that he could plow through that would cause the least amount of damage!

909Jeff
909Jeff

Okay, 

1st of all people die everyday... so my heart cries for the deceased. 

You said something interesting, Use your common sense... And common sense would tell me to look both ways before crossing the street. 

And you really should care about what the law says because... well... Its the law! 

As far as my feelings as to if it were my grandfather... All my grandparents are dead. Dont feel bad though its a part of life. 

I still feel no shame.

909Jeff
909Jeff

Then your argument isn't with me its with the ca vehicle code... Yes pedestrians have the right of way but the premise of Guests argument is that if the cyclist was in a motor vehicle then then it would be manslaughter... which is plainly untrue.  Simply assigning liability or as you call it "fault" doesn't make someone guilty of an infraction or crime. Of course everyone SHOULD be alert, drive defensively and be prepared to avoid an accident... There is no law that says you MUST... You are blurring the lines between should and must.  

OH- and to the point of that whole pedestrian thing... That is OVERLY misquoted so happy reading... Let me know when your done reading subsection (b).  21950. (a) The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter.(b) This section does not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian may suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. No pedestrian may unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a marked or unmarked crosswalk

guest
guest like.author.displayName 1 Like

 .....Oh  well your so smart yet you do not see a human being lost his life. The law supporting  your opinion is a sujective point of view. Who care what the law says?!  Use your common sense. Its a matter of morals and most of safety for everyone. Cyclist need to slow down. Especially, at any and all intersections. They have to follow the rules that come with right to share the road with motor vehicles. How would you like it if that was your grandfather that died??? SHAME ON YOU

Kevin
Kevin like.author.displayName 1 Like

Sorry 909er but you're wrong. The vehicle/driver has the responsibility to be driving at a safe enough speed to avoid an accident at all times. While you are technically "allowed" to enter the intersection on a yellow light, that does not give you the right to hit a vehicle or pedestrian. In fact, a pedestrian is granted the right of way simply by stepping off the sidewalk, regardless of the status of the lights. If an accident occurs, the vehicle would be at fault... the police may also cite the pedestrian for jaywalking or something else but a driver of a vehicle (includes bikes) must always be prepared to stop/avoid an accident.

Guest
Guest

Another thing to consider is yellow lights for bikes on the main bike routes.  Bikes generally need a longer yellow.  

Kevin
Kevin like.author.displayName 1 Like

A special Yellow for bikes? Are you serious???  If it's yellow don't go. If you can't slow down... you're going too fast. It is the same rules that apply to cars. You are a vehicle. He admits it: "The light turned yellow as I was approaching the intersection, but I was already way too committed to stop."  That is a cyclist driving at a speed beyond his control.

Too many cyclists (and I am one) want it both ways... they want to navigate traffic like a car but also want the right away afforded a pedestrian. A red light, or yellow in some instances, means STOP... not "I think I can make it".

Mark Duncan
Mark Duncan like.author.displayName 1 Like

As a city cyclist myself, I'd like to see more traffic enforcement overall. Basically, a lot of people just ignore safety for their own selfish reasons. It would help the city budget, of that I'm sure.

Able Dart
Able Dart like.author.displayName 1 Like

Modern road bikes are capable of speeds up to 40 mi./h. Other cities are starting to aggressively ticket bicyclists for speeding. It's time to San Francisco did the same, and caught up with technology.

Elizabethfrantes
Elizabethfrantes

And if they won't get off the sidewalks, it's time to do a bit of clotheslining. 

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