Ron Paul Says He Didn't Create Offensive "China Jon" YouTube Video

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GOP presidential hopeful has done some crazy shit in his past, as we've noted here before, but his campaign claims he never released this offensive YouTube video about ex-Utah Gov. Jon Hunstman, showing him dressed as the Communist leader Mao Zedong.

Paul's campaign filed a lawsuit in San Francisco last week, claiming the "malicious" video, which was posted on YouTube by "NHLiberty4Paul," is a case of "dirty politics."

According to the claim, the video questions Huntsman's allegiance to the United States, referring to the former Republican presidential candidate as "China Jon."

The video is accompanied with traditional Chinese music, and begins by displaying the text: "Jon Huntsman- American Values?/The Manchurian Candidate - What's He Hiding?,"

 "The term 'Manchurian Candidate' is particularly offensive since it is derived from the title of a book and movie depicting an American captured by the Chinese who, after being brainwashed, returns to the United States as an agent of the KGB," the complaint states.

It also shows Hunstman, a former ambassador to China, speaking Mandarin to one of his adopted daughters, and follows it by asking whether he is "weak on China?"

The video ends with a fictitious depiction of Huntsman in a Mao Zedong uniform with the text: "American Values and Liberty. Vote Ron Paul" which implies, the Texas Congressman either made, or endorsed, the video and its content, according to the lawsuit.

The identities of the creators of this video are still unknown, but that's not stopping Paul from suing John Does 1 through 10.

"This is a classic case of dirty politics resulting from the unlawful use in commerce of an underhanded and deceptive advertisement designed to tarnish [Paul's] reputation ... and to hinder efforts to raise funds for and promote Dr. Ron Paul's candidacy for the President of the United States," his lawyers argued.

In other words, Paul isn't that paranoid.

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57girl
57girl

This video doesn't look like something Ron Paul would put out.  However, if we don't soon take our Nation back, we may all be speaking Chinese.  A little something to think about while there is still time to save our Constitution and expose the Federal Reserve.  My vote goes to Ron Paul in 2012.  I hope yours does too.

efrainrojas
efrainrojas

Where did the footage edited into this video come from? Was it extracted from readily available video on the web? Or did it come from the personal library of someone close to the Huntsman campaign?

Donna Stevens
Donna Stevens

Yes it was compiled from various footage on youtube dating back to August 2011

Dave Infinger
Dave Infinger

It is good to know I don't need to come back to this webpit anymore. Maybe the writer, "and I use that word loosely," should try to stick with the facts. Ron Paul did not make this video nor did any of his supporters but rather Huntsman's daughters are alleged to have done this. The article should have been about Huntsman not Paul but hey, who says this writer has the ability to do any meaningful research so my advice is to go Google Alex Jones and see if his site is not more in line with the truth instead of this Hack.

Theancientalien
Theancientalien

The evidence is clear.  Youtube holds records of the IP from where it was uploaded, and the first viewer of the video was the official huntsman website.  Investigative journalists have debunked the newsletters (James B. Powell wrote the racist content) and the Huntsman video. Do journalist just copy each others' stories and paraphrase?  What ever happened to um...what's that word?  Research?   Don't worry though, Paul Haters... you know the mainstream media isn't going to report the findings.  Funny how us crazy paulbots are so much more informed on all the candidates while pundits are slaves to either ignorance or money.  Thank God I'm a free thinking individual.  RP2012

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Wasn't that the same approach used to show that Anthony Weiner didn't really upload the photos to Twitter?

mnolan13
mnolan13

The thing that bugs me most about this "story" is that Paul's campaign disavowed this video a day before the story was picked up and distributed throughout the media.  Of course that little tidbit was rarely mentioned in the coverage.

The Huntsman's have deep pockets, when it's "discovered" that the Huntsman campaign is the "John Doe" I hope Jon spends the rest of his days paying off this suit.

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Unlike Paul, Huntsman isn't a complete idiot.  I don't see why you'd assume he'd make a racist campaign video about himself.

mnolan13
mnolan13

His campaign website was the video's first reference ~ before search engines would have picked up a video with zero hits at the time.

I'd be shocked if it weren't his campaign that spread the thing. 

Donna Stevens
Donna Stevens

You should both do a search for "Jon Huntsman" on the stormfront website. Coincidentally Huntsman was being vetted by Ron Paul supporters on that website one day before the video surfaced.

USSConstitution
USSConstitution

http://img341.imageshack.us/im...

Here you go. 

Let me explain how YouTube stats work.     The letters themselves are assigned based on traffic.   So "A" is always the referrer with the most views.     B is next, etc.   You can check out any youtube video and see this.

But in the graph, the order of the letters themselves is the order in which they appeared.

Because the first sources have only 1 view, we can actually trace to the original sources.

E:  Is a view from /myvideos.   This is logical, it's a view from the users(who was just created the day the video was upload) video page, which signifies the uploader viewing the page.

D:   This is the 2nd overall view on the video, and it comes from Jon Huntsman own website.   Problem is, at no time did Huntsman link to the video externally.   What this means is that the link appeared out of public eye, but transferred the headers to youtube.   In other words, this means it was likely a link clicked by a web email on the site.

C:  A youtube search for "Ron Paul".  It has only 1 view, so it's likely a sorted result based on most recent uploads.  Again likely making sure the video is listed.

B:  View from mobile devices.   Now we get into larger numbers, so we lose direct order at this point.   We know that 4th overall view is from this source, but the other 4 views could have come after the first A.   This is again likely from an email link, but was received on a mobile device rather than webmail.    An IM link could also cause it.

A:  Finally we get to twitter.   Which is when it was "put out there".

Notice that all sources come on the SAME DAY as the upload, and before any real traffic is hitting the site.    The traffic comes in the next day, when the media starts reporting on it.

I'm a programmer/web developer by profession.   It's extremely obvious to those in my profession where it originated from.    An independent party was also hired to find the source, and they concluded the same thing.

You can view their report here:

http://images.politico.com/glo...

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

So then why can't you cite a single source of your claims?  Looks like there's a troll here, and it's you.

I'm done wasting my time on you.

mnolan13
mnolan13

Not my theory, this video was debunked over a week ago.  If you're too lazy to check the facts yourself, but have all the time in the world arguing with someone who is correct on his facts, you're a troll.

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Right, I'm "trolling" because I'm skeptical of some anonymous person's insane conspiracy theories.  Good call there.

mnolan13
mnolan13

The beauty is that I don't have to ~ that will be done by the courts.  The facts are the facts, regardless of your cynicism.  You believe whatever you like.  For those interested in the truth, it exists.  Seek and ye..

Aw, nevermind ~ you're just here trolling anyway, right?

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Sorry, I'm not going to research your outlandish conspiracy theories for you.  Do it yourself.

mnolan13
mnolan13

The filter eats all my cites.

You know how to do an internet search, right?

mnolan13
mnolan13

I cited sources, and the filter ate it.

New American, Michael Tennant 1/8/12 ~ you've got Google?

"For example, NHLiberty4Paul’s YouTube account was created the same day that the video was first uploaded. Even more suspiciously, writes End Run, “according to the publicly-viewable stats provided by YouTube, the very first place this video was posted was Jon Huntsman’s campaign website, Jon2012.com. This was done on ... the very day the video was uploaded to YouTube, and before the video had received any traffic from other sites.”“Pretty quick, on the draw, those Huntsman people — a little too quick, wouldn’t you say?” asked Justin Raimondo, who also pointed out that “the video just happened to have footage of Huntsman’s daughters that I haven’t seen anywhere else.”

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

And maybe you should cite your sources instead of making shit up?

mnolan13
mnolan13

You are incorrect. 

The video uploaded by NHLiberty4Paul ~ not the one cited on this website ~ the first referral from the web was Huntsman's official website.  You should do a bit more digging.

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Nope.  Facebook was the first site to link to the video.

mnolan13
mnolan13

Go to youtube, and then look at the statistics on the video.  Huntsman's website is the first to refer to the video.

You are correct that search engines would not have located the video for a while, however Huntsman's campaign found it, and then referred people to youtube immediately after it was posted.  How do you think they did that, if they had no prior knowledge of the video?  There were media reports on this video before it had 100 hits.  The Huntsman girls were on the news the next day complaining about it.  Look for yourself at the record, don't take my word for it.

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

And you know this... how?  Search engines don't update sites instantly, it takes days/weeks for them to crawl most sites.

So if that's your only "proof," you have none.

Ben Walsh
Ben Walsh

Amazing how this keeps happening to Ron Paul! People ... magic, unnamed people ... just somehow come out with newsletters or videos that are viciously racist and in close agreement with Ron Paul's opinions and history as a John Bircher demagogue ... but it wasn't him! No! A wizard did it!

Vance1936
Vance1936

... that "wizard" was probably wearing a white sheet.Vance

listen3me
listen3me

The evidence points at the Huntsman campaign.

You know evidence, right? It's that thing you use when making accusations.

Mary
Mary

How awesome... is it possible that justice can actually be served FOR ONCE in this campaign? Ron Paul, you are a hero!

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