Occupy SF: Should Protesters Stay or Should They Go? (Video)


​Noon came and went without action at Justin Herman Plaza today, the deadline by which the city wanted the Occupy SF tents to move to a new site near 16th and Mission streets -- and still there was no consensus among campers about whether the group should move or not. (The guy above certainly wasn't moving, instead threatening to close down the Bay Bridge if the city dare evict him. For the record, that's the same man with the dangle earring who's on the front of the Examiner this morning.) 

We went down to the plaza to check out the scene at noon, but found protesters milling around, some waiting for the promised city trucks to come help them move their tents and gear to the new location. So while it looked like some protesters were ready to move on, others clearly intended to stay, perhaps opening the door to a potential police raid. Although the Mayor's Office is denying there are plans for police to storm the camp anytime soon.

The city offered Occupy a vacant, fenced-in gravel school yard in the Mission if protesters promised to follow certain rules: No alcohol or illegal drugs, no noise after a certain hour, no car batteries, and city workers must have access to individual tents.


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This guy wasn't moving.
​One protester sat by his tent that read: "I will not live behind barbed wire," an embellished reference to the fence surrounding the proposed space. A white dry-erase board with the day's schedule read that DPW had proposed the new location to them on Tuesday, along with a written message saying "We are not abandoning JHP!" (Justin Herman Plaza.)

Still, some said that the move might be a blessing in disguise; they could now weed out the mentally ill and homeless folks squatting in the camp with no real political purpose. 

"This is based on a movement -- not a just a lot of people hanging out," camper Aaron Guyton told us. "We offered this space to squatters -- now it's come to this point because too many people are doing their own thing. If you're not holding a sign or creating, maintaining the camp, what are you doing here?"​

Guyton said he was willing to go to the Mission. Another camper agreed the new location "seems like a safer solution. Hopefully, the guidelines will be enforced better than here." 
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Camper Aaron Guyton is willing to move
A homeless man who calls himself Papa Smurf said that while campers felt like a "ping-pong ball," a move to the Mission might be the only way for Occupy SF to survive. "I want the movement to last. This is not gonna last," he says, referring to the Justin Herman camp. 

"I talked to sergeants [of the police department] and they said the city has never offered anything to a movement before. I know it's a shitty location, but it's better than nothing." 

Still, some campers were not so amenable to the move. "Hell no!" said a young homeless man who identified himself as Kriss Kranus. "Nobody takes the first offer. This is the first offer. We should be out physically in the public's face." 

"They're trying to put us in a neighborhood to put us in a cage, because Homeland Security  met with San Francisco officials and are trying to sabotage our movement, " Kranus claimed. He also alleged the police were trying to ruin the movement by dumping "drug users with psychological issues" into the camp. 

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Camper Papa Smurf: Also willing to move
​Kranus said if they're thrown out of Justin Herman Plaza, he wants to set up a "revolving occupancy" against the Federal Reserve, financial interests, and the city. "Our stuff will be on wheels and we can move," he said. "In San Francisco, they can't arrest us for sleeping on the street."

Even after unleashing so much vitriol against the proposed move, Kranus conceded that maybe moving would filter out the miscreants. "Maybe they're doing us a favor by kicking us out. It's become a homeless camp."

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12 comments
oregonpilot
oregonpilot

Um, I think I can see why these protestors are part of the 99%.  I also think they always will be.

Jim
Jim

 They are 2nd generation hippie kids of  the old original real 1960s Frisco Hippies left over from Hippie Communes that broke up after the 60s man.. now they play  weekend dress up pretend hippie who want to save the world 2011. they do this for part time for fun and entertainment. but in the end it will solve nothing  and change NOTHING. the world is rigged to work against the human race and we cant win its all a lost cause.

Dawb2747
Dawb2747

I am part of the 99%.  I worked for 48 years.  I use my vote, letters to the editor and my Congresspersons, etc. to get the changes I want.  Before these idiots (Occupiers) 8% lawyers open their mouths they should read an article in the NY Times b David Brook about who the 1% are.  These are "about" figures:  31% head private businesses or started their own business (Microsoft, Yahoo),  16% are doctors (probably specialists with years of schooling and experience), 14% are in finance (Wall Street?), 8% lawyers (enough said), AND 2% are in the news media, entertainment or sprots.  Can't remember all of the ctegories but that is about it. Most of the 99% DO NOT support these idiots.  The news media does.

amethystlady
amethystlady

You, Dawb...are completely wrong...have a cite for your percentages?  I didn't think so...and "Oregon Pilot"...you should really get your head out of the clouds, because YOU are a part of the 1%...do you realize just how snobbish and condescending you sound?  I know several people all over the Country who back this movement...I am retired, and 2 of my grandsons back this movement too...so please get your facts straight before you spout more FAUX NOISE!

Free beach life
Free beach life

I live in a tent in Hawaii at the beach on the east side of Oahu and its not bad here. plenty of people live this way here and the cops leave us alone and dont care.

Jim
Jim

or check you tube and type in homeless in Hawaii to see more.

Transit
Transit

And yet you seem to have found access to the internet.  Curious.

Jim
Jim

 lots of homeless people have i pod ,internet ,cell phones etc or they get online at any free library computer. your not very hip to the streets or being homeless pal.

Parents Suck
Parents Suck

they should become real true 100% homeless people forever.

Pinchythecrab
Pinchythecrab

Nice rant from a drunk unstable person to pigeon hole the camp and turn people with jobs against it. Your on your way to a career at Fox !

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