"Cookie Monster" Offers Best Explanation Yet for Occupy Wall Street

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"C is for Corporate Malfeasance"
​A guy calling himself Cookie Monster has written what looks to us like the most clear and persuasive explanation for the Occupy movement we've seen anywhere, a copy-and-pastable screed that everyone should send to their crazy aunts and skeptical grandfolks.

Admittedly, we don't know for sure that the following bit of Cookie Monster/#OWS brilliance was penned by a guy. But it turned up in an Onion AV Club comment thread on an article about how some "Muppet insiders" are feeling squeamish about that upcoming new Muppet movie, and to argue the fundamentals of the American economy in such a forum seems awfully boyish, so the evidence is good enough for us.

(The Av Club, remember, is the not made-up Onion site that lavishes serious attention on everything that matters in pop culture, especially Community. And Cookie Monster, remember, is these days a reformed glutton, so who better to school the world on the ways of the 1 percent?)

Anyway, this "Cookie Monster" -- who writes in full-on, dead-perfect, no-article Cookie-ese -- has long been one of the AV Club's best gimmick commenters, but also one of the Internet's most astute and thoughtful writers, period. The AV Club should sign him (?) up immediately, because, seriously, he ranks right up there with Sean O'Neal and Steven Hyden -- the site's sharpest writers.

Anyway, here's a burst of Cookie truth that should be copy-and-pasted everywhere all across the Internet. Today, we are all Cookie Monsters!

(Note: We cleaned up one typo.)

Yes, there always going to be rich and poor. But we used to live in country where rich owned factory and make 30 times what factory worker make. Now we live in country where rich make money by lying about value of derivative bonds and make 3000 times what factory worker would make if factories hadn't all moved to China.

Capitalism great system. We won Cold War because people behind Iron Curtain look over wall, and see how much more plentiful and delicious cookies are in West, and how we have choice of different bakeries, not just state-owned one. It great system. It got us out of Depression, won WWII, built middle class, built country's infrastructure from highways to Hoover Dam to Oreo factory to electrifying rural South. It system that reward hard work and fair play, and everyone do fair share and everyone benefit. Rich get richer, poor get richer, everyone happy. It great system.

Then after Reagan, Republicans decide to make number one priority destroying that system. Now we have system where richest Americans ones who find ways to game system -- your friends on Wall Street -- and poorest Americans ones who thought working hard would get them American dream, when in fact it get them pink slip when job outsourced to 10-year-old in Mumbai slum. And corporations have more influence over government than people (or monsters).

It not about rich people having more money. It about how they got money. It about how they take opportunity away from rest of us, for sake of having more money. It how they willing to take risks that destroy economy -- knowing full well what could and would happen -- putting millions out of work, while creating nothing of value, and all the while crowing that they John Galt, creating wealth for everyone.

That what the soul-searching about. When Liberals run country for 30 years following New Deal, American economy double in size, and wages double along with it. That fair. When Conservatives run country for 30 years following Reagan, American economy double again, and wages stay flat. What happen to our share of money? All of it go to richest 1%. That not "there always going to be rich people". That unfair system. That why we upset. That what Occupy Sesame Street about.

See the original comment here.

(There's also a great Cookie Monster follow up, in which he says "In theory, this country a democracy, where everyone who share resources also have say in how resources used. In practice, ordinary monster have very little say, and super-rich basically do whatever they want and make government do whatever they want.")

And Sean O'Neal's piece on the Muppet movie is pretty hilarious.

And, hey, you might be interested to know that on November 22 comedian W. Kamau Bell wrote this impassioned, inspiring post titled "Stop Talking Shit About the Occupy Movement."

And here's seven awful things that Ann Coulter said about Occupy.
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helpdesk76
helpdesk76 like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hey Guys!!  Do we do counties?  Nobody seems to give a sh1t about Occupy Wall Street or Occupy Brooklyn or Occupy Boston or Occupy "any city you can think of, in any country"....maybe Occupy Suffolk County?!  What do you think?  LETS DO THIS!!!!

nyccomputer
nyccomputer

@helpdesk76 Stop it.  OWS is filled with drug addicts and rapists.  We do not need ANY MORE of those in suffolk county.

Norman Meyer
Norman Meyer

the 1% with the help of what should be our government have stole our country . When the government does not represent the people , We have the right , no we have the obligation to take our country back . The 1% will not let it be a peaceful revolt . if you are willing to let these bastards have thier way , then all who have died for our rights died for SHIT !!!!! get some balls U.S.A.

Payton_vege
Payton_vege

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Capitalism Is Wage Slavery
Capitalism Is Wage Slavery

Capitalism was never a fair or decent or non-coldblooded system. It's just that back in the 1950s when there were labor unions representing about a third of the private sector workforce, fighting for a less exploitative wage for their members and (gasp!) actual benefits, it was LESS unfair and LESS egregious of a failure for the average person. Unions have a ripple effect in that it scares non-unionized business owners/shareholders into decreasing the level of exploitation of their own workers to try to avoid the fate of becoming a unionized business. Unions were greatly represented in the manufacturing sector.

Nowadays with an anemic manufacturing sector and unions representing less than 7% of the private sector workforce it has become open season on the working man and woman, who have increasingly little leverage to effect a better wage and benefits for themselves as anyone with common sense knows that 1 person bargaining with a corporation or even against a small business for that matter has NO clout. A predominantly service sector economy with hardly any union workers makes for a very dismal, very exploitative range of job possibilities for the average worker or average prospective worker. In the service sector the worker is eminently replaceable, hence unions have gained very little traction there. And things seem to be getting worse intstead of better.

But unions or no unions, under a capitalist economic model the average worker IS GOING TO BE EXPLOITED to a greater or lesser degree, period. Capitalism simply cannot function without that huge gap between a worker's value added and a worker's wage because 1.the business owner/shareholders wouldn't be able to afford their overhead costs and 2.the business owner isn't going to be making a profit, meaning he or she isn't going to bother to remain a business owner for long. So let's not sugarcoat it and let's all have guts enough right now to admit the obvious: capitalism = exploitation of everyone who does not possess the capital to be able to exploit others.

The capitalism versus state socialism/communism debate is possibly the biggest false choice ever given to mankind. We are made to think that if you don't like capitalism then the only other alternative is something like the Soviet Union where the government literally owns all the productive assets, then they trot out the litany of abuses and failings of the horrid Soviet-style economy, the bread lines, the scarcity, the sameness, the lack of motivation to do a better job et cetera et cetera. Then they fold their arms smugly as if they just proved capitalism is the only option as communism is such a clear failure.

That is like telling someone that their only 2 options are to be hanged or to be mauled to death by wolves, then when they choose hanging saying "See? Being hanged is great! It's the only way to go!" and totally ignoring the third option, continuing to live rather than being put to death. An extreme comparison but a valid one considering how different and how ignored the third option is. And it certainly is NOT some kind of in-between part-capitalism part-communism option.

The other option beyond capitalism and communism is a combination of the best aspects of socialism and anarcho-syndicalism and is what the future world will look like. It will be a popular government whose goal is to better the lives of its citizens, the vast majority of its citizens, not a tiny select elite class that owns everything. But it will itself own few of the productive assets, only those directly related to the health and well-being of the citizens, i.e. the health care industries, finance and energy which would be run as non-profits for the public good. The rest of the businesses would be in the hands of their workers, directly. The government would use its coercive powers of legislation, taxation and when necessary the police and military to effect the transfer of the ownership of the productive assets out of the hands of exploitative business owners and shareholders and into the hands of the only people who will not exploit the workers, i.e. the workers themselves. They would have as much right to do this as they would to take an abused child away from their abusive parents, as much of a right as they would have to confiscate a snake oil salesman's snake oil. This is the ONLY WAY to prevent the mass exploitation of the average person, our children and grandchildren. Direct worker ownership of the businesses, achieved by a popularly elected government that is transparent and accountable to the people at large through recall elections up to and including the president, and having a unicameral legislature is the answer that makes capitalism and Soviet-style state socialism look like dinosaurs. Time for the people who do the work that makes the profits to actually benefit from it. Time for them to have some incentive to do more than the bare minimum because unlike with capitalism (or state socialism) they would have the incentive as they would be a part owner in addition to being a worker. The answer is obvious. Put capitalism in a museum next to Soviet communism. The world needs to evolve beyond it. Wage slavery that benefits a tiny sliver of the population by exploiting everyone else in varying degrees is pretty far from the best that humanity can do.  

Ben
Ben

What a bunch of BS.  First, what is the set amount of money that we started out with?  Wealth isn't something that is in a finite amount.  New wealth is created everyday - look at the gadgets you use and the social media you idiots cling to for example.  Who did the money get taken away from for facebook to create billions of dollars in new wealth? 

First, the Democrats created a problem by destroying dignity.  People used to be ashamed of being unable to provide for their families.  They would travel to find work and sometimes work more than one job - that's what your grandparents and great grandparents did.  The new deal meant that people didn't have to achieve at least the minimum on their own.  People in this country don't even have to work for the most basic need - food.  In fact, the biggest health problem among the poor in this country is obesity.  Imagine that, we have such a successful welfare program that that even the poorest among us have abundance to abuse. 

I could go on and on about this but I can't. There are no real facts in that statement.  It is a full of the same crap that we hear from losers that get their information by word of mouth and bumper stickers.  The same people that have a wealth of information available at their fingertips have about as much desire to research the facts as they do to get off their ass and work like rest of us.  Oh yeah, you got a degree in education so you are entitled to 80k/yr out the gate. Go tell that crap to a Mexican that will cross a desert and put his life at risk to pick fruit or cut your parent's grass.  Go tell that to the Chinese or Indian immigrants that come here and have to learn a whole new language and culture to achieve success. They do it.  Obama has been hard at work creating jobs, where's yours?  If he takes more money from someone else how much do you think is going to make it to your pocket?  You don't have to try anything to get that hand out.  EIC will pay you thousands as long as you have a low wage job and children.  Get over yourselves only half the people in this country pay taxes and what is that doing for you?

ProfessorFang
ProfessorFang

Making the same mistake every Occupier makes: capitalism is a BROKEN SYSTEM that allows for this, conservatives had nothing to do with that other than being mostly people who noticed the exploit.

Teddy
Teddy

I love that part about how capitalism got us out of the Great Depression! I feel like it may have gotten us there too... Otherwise a very good, concise explanation of why our protests are in fact justified.

Ronald Czarnecki
Ronald Czarnecki

Wonder whether OWS has taken a look at the current administration to see the wonderful things he has done for this economy? Wonder whether they've looked at his buddies in the corporate world that he favors with subsidies when they support him with campaign donations. Wonder whether they've looked at his economic adviser G. Immelt from GE, the company that pays no taxes but works for Obama to "fix" the economy? Wonder whether they've considered how many jobs have been lost due to excessive regulations and the failure to explore, drill and use our own resources? Wonder whether they've looked at the wasted tax dollars thrown at defective, expensive cars that will never sell? Wonder whether they've looked at the billions thrown at solar companies on the ropes that have gone bankrupt and fixed it so that the taxpayer monies are subordinated to the Obama pals who invested in them. Wonder if they've looked at J. Corzine who bilked investors of 1.2 billion. Oh yes, he was the guy Obama was going to replace T. Geitner with. Don't remember that, do you? Wonder if they've looked at fat cat hypocrite supreme Michael Moore's summer house on the river in Michigan? Wonder if they've ever done a comparison of the richest members of Congress? If they were to do so, they would find that most are Dems. Wonder if they've wondered why their Prez wants US to be #1 customer for Brazil oil, when we have plenty of our own? Wonder if they remember the economy, the 18% interest rates, 18% inflation and the gas lines under J. Carter? Wonder if they care about a Prez and an AG who run guns to Mexico, paid for by taxpayers, and then used to kill hundreds of innocent people in Mexico and two federal agents...and still the OWS says nothing about that!

Nope, they don't wonder, they just follow the adoring media like blind sheep. Much more on this at: http://sleeplessandtired.com

Andy Hogue
Andy Hogue

‎"Occupados say 'Share cookies.' Tea Party say 'Make more cookies.' Me say compromise." --C. Monster.

Dave
Dave

i have cake in my snatch! help me!

Monster Addendum
Monster Addendum

Cookie Monster forgot say that following world war two taxes reduced and spending. Following korea and vietnam tax reduced, spending not, and much credit risk taken on by middle class. Government expanded much during new deal and other such program. Tax expansion during world war one thing, maintain welfare state created by collectivist program not fair, not capitalism. Free market manipulated, raise cost for many things, not fair.

TeddyOrwell
TeddyOrwell

The elephant in the room is the massively bloated military budget of the US. Also, there is no such thing as a completely free market, nor is such a thing desirable by anyone who has a conscience.

Rob
Rob

Sorry to disappoint but:1. We live in a republic, not a democracy.2. It's nobody's business how much money someone else has or makes.3. Life isn't fair.  Anyone who told you it is lied to you.4. Take the time and effort you're putting in to tearing down fellow Americans into improving your situation.  Quit complaining and suck it up like your grandparents and great grandparents did and quit blaming someone else for your station in life.

BillV
BillV

 Spoken like someone who's wearing blinders, or worse, you're part of the problem yourself.

That said, regardless of these protests and any efforts to reverse the process, and regardless of how tired people are of working hard and sucking it up for naught, the approaching situation (Ultra-rich minority, poor majority) is, historically speaking, nearly always the ultimate result in any political system. It's fine to fight it for the effect of slowing it down, but it's going to happen no matter what.

Pgazdag
Pgazdag

I have to say, part of the reason we're in this mess is 'cause even the commentators feel like they have to DUMB IT DOWN for you guys

Chris Smith
Chris Smith

I'm an OWS supporter, but I honestly didn't care for that.

1) It's too difficult to read in Cookie Monster-speak2) It speaks to those who already understand OWS, not to those who don't

Dustin_hollinshead
Dustin_hollinshead

Anyone who complains about how the rich are getting richer, and the jobs are being outsourced should take a REAL hard look at what's on the tags of their clothes and labels on their televisions. 100% of us buy and own things made overseas. Complaining about losing jobs doesn't negate the fact that WE allow these companies to outsource our jobs by continuing to purchase these products. If you want to do your country and your self a favor, READ THE F'N LABEL!

Ethan Van Beardswick
Ethan Van Beardswick

Right on! Cookie Monster expresses the views of the best of the protesters who are voicing legitimate grievances. But did you read Oscar the Grouch's rant in this month's "Esquire"? (Expletives deleted by me.)

"Cookie Monster is a big p*, man! Maybe that's what it's about for some, but for the rest of us it's about the scene, man! This is an opportunity for us monsters to bang some hipster chicks who want to get back at their parents for who cares what. I've put 11 notches on my trash can lid since this thing started, and if I'm going to catch up with that skinny, filthy Grover (The Count says he's bagged 14 so far) then we're going to need more tents, more defecating in the streets and more yelling "F* the Cops!" And f* Cookie Monster anyway! For years he was all about the cookies. "Me want MORE cookies!" and all that. Now he's all "Cookies are a soooometimes food!" What the f* is that?! Cookies are his g*d* raison d'être, for c*sakes! His name is g*d* "Cookie Monster"! F* that "sometimes food" s*! He sold out to the 1% because of their corporate funding for public broadcasting!"

CraigT
CraigT

While this does make a lot of sense, the problem with this article, and the OWS movement in general, is that it just complains about the system but doesn't offer any real way of FIXING the system. Just chanting "End Corporate Greed!" doesn't change anything. And I'm not saying I know the answer. I don't. That's why I'm not protesting.

LJPSaveSaveSave
LJPSaveSaveSave

I'm glad Cookie Monster has explained this.  It may help the clueless people who don't know what it's about and would rather denigrate people for having less wealth or opportunity than themselves.  And of those that don't understand what it's about, many would rather pretend it didn't exist.  Maybe Snufalufagus can help with that one.

Flagg6805
Flagg6805

You missed one type... It should begin "Yes, there are always going to be..." not "... there always going to be...".

M Measley
M Measley

Cookie monster say, "when democrat run country, cookies give to those contribute nothing in return. No middle class because San Francisco Congress woman own by visa and president only in title sinking Cookie boat.

Sweetiepie
Sweetiepie

Capitalism not great, capitalism suck and has ALWAYS sucked for the majority of people on this planet! That's why the "third world" is the third world.  Be smart, find just alternative- not communism, not capitalism- a hybrid of the two that puts human rights and environmental protection first, like Michael Albert's "Parecon- Participatory Economics"

-Sweetie-Pie

Racenut
Racenut

The rich get that way by working for it.  The OWS crowd wants to get rich by getting it from the government.

BillV
BillV

 The rich get that way by working hard, yes, just like most other people. Problem is, the work most of the 1%ers do is gaming the system and ducking taxes at every opportunity. Spin it up and polish it any way you like, that's what it is.

Flashusp
Flashusp

The relationship between the 1% and the 99%, basically described here, is the same as the US vs. The World. Let's hope Americans can understand it a little.

Gene Ayres
Gene Ayres

Good one, Cookie. Except you forgot mention taxes rich people don't pay! It's like they want to eat all cookies and YOU get fat. No fair!

Andrew Williams
Andrew Williams

It's the cookies, stupid! You gotta read the Cookie Monster.

pepina
pepina

Me like Cookie Monsters point of view. 

Oscar_The_Grouch
Oscar_The_Grouch

If you put cheese infront of a rat, and the rat eats the cheese, do you blame the rat or the personwho placed the cheese.  A rat's purposeis to seek food, eat as much as possible, and do everything in its power tocajole, beg, barter, and trade to get the cheese.  Similarly, a corporation's purpose is to seekprofit, return as much money as possible to the owners of the corporation, andto cajole, beg, barter, and trade to achieve those goals.  When a politician is corrupted into"placing some cheese" in front of a corporation, blame the politiciannot the corporation, even if the corporation is a rat. 

 

The OWS movement isabsolutely correct in their assertion and anger that bailouts were used to linethe pockets of executives and shareholders at the expense of taxpayers with theadded problem of moral hazard in "too big to fail."  They are also correct that the system hasevolved over the past 60 years into an inherently unfair system.

 

True capitalism isabout competition, the process of creative destruction, and innovation that isrewarded in a marketplace free from undue interference but regulated by rule oflaw.  That however is an outside perspectiveof capitalism.  When inside the dailyfight, capitalism is a dog-eat-dog knife fight to the death that many corporateexecutives try to win by buying politicians who change the rule of law to theirfavor, against a competitor, or to gain big bailouts in a tit-for-tatarrangement. 

 

When that shifthappens we no longer are in a capitalist system, we are operating under cronylaw.  What we need is MORE purecapitalism  and less cronyism to solvethis problem . 

 

That is why I do notunderstand why the protest has anything to do with Wall Street.  All the problems we have seen over the pastdecade and prior, every bubble and burst, bailout and buyoff, has started onPennsylvania Avenue not on Wall Street. From the removal of the Glass-Steagal Act and the Volker Rule, to taxfavoritism, to trade protectionism, to mercantilism,  to artificially low interest rates, toquasi-governmental organizations driving up risk taking we have been set onthis course by our politicians (at the bequest of corporations, but again, thatis their job) and politicians are to blame.

 

The occupy movementshould be holding senators accountable not bankers or business people. Ourlawmakers are supposed to be the force that says NO when corporations ask forbailouts to pay executives and investors not lining up to write the check inexchange for a kickback.   OWS should befighting for the rule of law to be re-established where cronyism has created ananti-capitalist, protectionist feeding frenzy benefiting the few at the expenseof the many.  OWS should be lobbyingcongress as a force for change to remove corporate favoritism fromgovernment.  Lobbying a rat to not be arat will never amount to anything. Forcing the rat to run the rat race ratherthan cheat via government interference is the solution but that can only bedone by returning government to its proper role as referee of the race and notas a rat participating in the race.

Iverson Kenneth
Iverson Kenneth

Ann Coulter should realize that we have guns also, and there a lot more of us. If peaceful demonstration is ineffective then perhaps we should resort to the methods the Founding Fathers used to free themselves from `the tyranny of the Oppressive elite'! 

Alan Villarreal
Alan Villarreal

guys are a bunch of hoomos.. the cookie monster is right!

Michael James
Michael James

Sad, it took a monster to shine a light on the real monsters who are giving not the children but the grown up the nightmares. :-/

Topdog51039
Topdog51039

hey cookie monster, get your head out of your ass  and learn history,  this is how liberals do things they lie.  example  bill  slick willy clinton, john edwards, and many others.  why dont you get off your butt and get a job  instead of asking people to give you money to sit around.  and try reading a history book and see who has been in control  of the house and congress over the period of time you talked about.  and another thing   why don't you  stop breaking the law  and do what the police say .  you are just a bunch of crooks just like all liberals

Capn
Capn

cram it up your class warfare ass and get in that can with oscar

Shae Murphy
Shae Murphy

Yes, that's about the level of thinking a hand operated puppet would exhibit.

Betelumineux
Betelumineux

Give a direct link to the post, snitch... c'mon! 

kylemcguire
kylemcguire

Ask yourself who gets the most money from Wall Street?  The answer:  DEMOCRATS

Atomic Rob
Atomic Rob

Dear Mr. Monster,

 

You have failed to address Carter's "Community Rebuilding Act,"Clinton's creation of government agencies like “Fannie Mae” and “Freddie Mac,”and the effects that these policies have had on the current US economy.  In response to the Great Depression, regulationswere put in place to prevent the exact type of economic debacle that we arewitnessing today.  A debacle that couldhave been avoided if Carter and Clinton had not deregulated financialinstitutions, allowing said banks to lend trillions of dollars to undeservingcitizens with zero collateral.

 

In addition, your suggestion that Wall Street tycoons and wealthybusiness owners should be blamed is flawed. Our legislature is delegated with the task of creating laws andregulations that will create a viable economic system.  When the legislature deregulates financialinstitutions, thus allowing Wall Street crooks to run wild, it is and alwayswill be the legislature who is to blame for the resulting damages.  I agree that the crooks who were in charge ofthe lending departments at Country Wide Financial, Washington Mutual, and othersuch institutions during the real estate boom should be punished, but let’sfocus on who gave them the power to act in the first place.  The legislature.

 

Also, your statements that the Democrats created a more universally prosperousAmerica while the Republicans focused on hording cash away from the poor and deliveringsaid funds into the hands of the rich is based on stats that were obviously pulledout of your cookie converter.  Mosteconomist would agree that 99% of stats are made up on the spot, and your over dramatizedrants are of no exception.

 

Finally, there will always be a 1%. But more importantly, if we hope to fully recover economically, we needthe 1% to take the kinds of risks that they have historically taken byinvesting in American businesses.  How doyou think any of the current fortune 500’s were built?  Who do you think runs these corporationstoday?  The 1 percenters are the people whorisked, and continue to risk everything to build up their empires here inAmerica.  Trying to force them to paymore than they would have to pay in other countries will drive their businessaway.  If we kill the golden goose-monster,we lose all the golden monster-eggs.  Weneed to stop occupying Wall Street and start occupying jobs.  We need to stop blaming the wealthy and focuson rebuilding a viable legislature. Monsters need to stop taking cookies from other monsters and startbaking their own damn cookies!

Jake
Jake

Cook-dogg, lots of the democrats come from wall street. Lots of the wall street folks are democrats. So what I'm sayin' is, rich is rich, blue or red, they're all scammers.

Atomic Rob
Atomic Rob

Dear Mr. Monster,

 

You have failed to address Carter's "Community Rebuilding Act,"Clinton's creation of government agencies like “Fannie Mae” and “Freddie Mac,”and the effects that these policies have had on the current US economy.  In response to the Great Depression, regulationswere put in place to prevent the exact type of economic debacle that we arewitnessing today.  A debacle that couldhave been avoided if Carter and Clinton had not deregulated financialinstitutions, allowing said banks to lend trillions of dollars to undeservingcitizens with zero collateral.

 

In addition, your suggestion that Wall Street tycoons and wealthybusiness owners should be blamed is flawed. Our legislature is delegated with the task of creating laws andregulations that will create a viable economic system.  When the legislature deregulates financialinstitutions, thus allowing Wall Street crooks to run wild, it is and alwayswill be the legislature who is to blame for the resulting damages.  I agree that the crooks who were in charge ofthe lending departments at Country Wide Financial, Washington Mutual, and othersuch institutions during the real estate boom should be punished, but let’sfocus on who gave them the power to act in the first place.  The legislature.

 

Also, your statements that the Democrats created a more universally prosperousAmerica while the Republicans focused on hording cash away from the poor and deliveringsaid funds into the hands of the rich is based on stats that were obviously pulledout of your cookie converter.  Mosteconomist would agree that 99% of stats are made up on the spot, and your over dramatizedrants are of no exception.

 

Finally, there will always be a 1%. But more importantly, if we hope to fully recover economically, we needthe 1% to take the kinds of risks that they have historically taken byinvesting in American businesses.  How doyou think any of the current fortune 500’s were built?  Who do you think runs these corporationstoday?  The 1 percenters are the people whorisked, and continue to risk everything to build up their empires here inAmerica.  Trying to force them to paymore than they would have to pay in other countries will drive their businessaway.  If we kill the golden goose-monster,we lose all the golden monster-eggs.  Weneed to stop occupying Wall Street and start occupying jobs.  We need to stop blaming the wealthy and focuson rebuilding a viable legislature. Monsters need to stop taking cookies from other monsters and startbaking their own damn cookies!

 

Pacnw503
Pacnw503

Sure, blame republicans. As long as we're playing the blame game; who changed the US economy from one that ran on real money to one that runs on debt? A Democrat. Who created the nation's largest single debt burden, social security? A Democrat.

Atomic Rob
Atomic Rob

Dear Mr. Monster,

You have failed to address Carter's "CommunityRebuilding Act," Clinton's creation of government agencies like “FannieMae” and “Freddie Mac,” and the effects that these policies have had on the currentUS economy.  In response to the GreatDepression, regulations were put in place to prevent the exact type of economicdebacle that we are witnessing today.  Adebacle that could have been avoided if Carter and Clinton had not deregulatedfinancial institutions, allowing said banks to lend trillions of dollars toundeserving citizens with zero collateral.

In addition, your suggestion that Wall Street tycoons andwealthy business owners should be blamed is flawed.  Our legislature is delegated with the task ofcreating laws and regulations that will create a viable economic system.  When the legislature deregulates financialinstitutions, thus allowing Wall Street crooks to run wild, it is and alwayswill be the legislature who is to blame for the resulting damages.  I agree that the crooks who were in charge ofthe lending departments at Country Wide Financial, Washington Mutual, and othersuch institutions during the real estate boom should be punished, but let’sfocus on who gave them the power to act in the first place.  The legislature.

Also, your statements that the Democrats created a moreuniversally prosperous America while the Republicans focused on hording cash awayfrom the poor and delivering said funds into the hands of the rich is based on statsthat were obviously pulled out of your cookie converter.  Most economist would agree that 99% of statsare made up on the spot, and your over dramatized rants are of no exception.

Finally, there will always be a 1%.  But more importantly, if we hope to fullyrecover economically, we need the 1% to take the kinds of risks that they have historicallytaken by investing in American businesses. How do you think any of the current fortune 500’s were built?  Who do you think runs these corporationstoday?  The 1 percenters are the people whorisked, and continue to risk everything to build up their empires here inAmerica.  Trying to force them to paymore than they would have to pay in other countries will drive their businessaway.  If we kill the golden goose-monster,we lose all the golden monster-eggs.  Weneed to stop occupying Wall Street and start occupying jobs instead.  We need to stop blaming the wealthy and focuson rebuilding a viable legislature. Monsters need to stop taking cookies from other monsters and startbaking their own damn cookies!

Atomic Rob
Atomic Rob

Dear Mr. Monster,

You have failed to address Carter's "CommunityRebuilding Act," Clinton's creation of government agencies like “FannieMae” and “Freddie Mac,” and the effects that these policies have had on the currentUS economy.  In response to the GreatDepression, regulations were put in place to prevent the exact type of economicdebacle that we are witnessing today.  Adebacle that could have been avoided if Carter and Clinton had not deregulatedfinancial institutions, allowing said banks to lend trillions of dollars toundeserving citizens with zero collateral.

In addition, your suggestion that Wall Street tycoons andwealthy business owners should be blamed is flawed.  Our legislature is delegated with the task ofcreating laws and regulations that will create a viable economic system.  When the legislature deregulates financialinstitutions, thus allowing Wall Street crooks to run wild, it is and alwayswill be the legislature who is to blame for the resulting damages.  I agree that the crooks who were in charge ofthe lending departments at Country Wide Financial, Washington Mutual, and othersuch institutions during the real estate boom should be punished, but let’sfocus on who gave them the power to act in the first place.  The legislature.

Also, your statements that the Democrats created a moreuniversally prosperous America while the Republicans focused on hording cash awayfrom the poor and delivering said funds into the hands of the rich is based on statsthat were obviously pulled out of your cookie converter.  Most economist would agree that 99% of statsare made up on the spot, and your over dramatized rants are of no exception.

Finally, there will always be a 1%.  But more importantly, if we hope to fullyrecover economically, we need the 1% to take the kinds of risks that they have historicallytaken by investing in American businesses. How do you think any of the current fortune 500’s were built?  Who do you think runs these corporationstoday?  The 1 percenters are the people whorisked, and continue to risk everything to build up their empires here inAmerica.  Trying to force them to paymore than they would have to pay in other countries will drive their businessaway.  If we kill the golden goose-monster,we lose all the golden monster-eggs.  Weneed to stop occupying Wall Street and start occupying jobs instead.  We need to stop blaming the wealthy and focuson rebuilding a viable legislature. Monsters need to stop taking cookies from other monsters and startbaking their own damn cookies!

Derrick Bruno-Rathgeber
Derrick Bruno-Rathgeber

The system has been messed up for a long time now. The funny thing about this occupation Wall Street deal is they are going about it so wrong. My wife made a good point, all these people are supporting large companies blindly by buying Sharpe markers, sign materials, tents, and other items all created by the companies they are protesting...... These companies build themselves up on this type of chaos. They are used to damage control, and cutting corners. There is no middle class because middle class jobs are sent over seas, and college educated jobs are given to illegal immigrants for less wages (and done in a cut corner piss poor way I might add.) They don't pay taxes, just like the rich, and yet we cater to them in everyday. Free college, free state assistants, you name it. Our state money that should be used for schools & people that actually need it, like our veterans, are going to people who are breaking the law. It's been going on for a long time now people keep acting like this just happened. It's so damn messed up it's like a bad joke. 

You are telling me nobody noticed us spiraling down during the war started over oil..., wait I mean dictators...., no terrorism..what was it about again. We have been spending ALL of our money helping other countries. I do support us helping countries, but as a husband and father I have to think first before I help someone else. I have to make sure my family has enough food, and rent is paid before I spend that money helping the unfortunate. I help with what I can.

Bottom line our country needs to pay the bills first like we all do. They expect us to pay our taxes on time, and companies expect us to pay our bills on time, or else they have the right to take our taxes. So when is our country going to take responsibility of their debt, and their family, before helping other families first. It just shows me as an american, that we come second even in the eyes of our own politicians.

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