Pelican Bay Hunger Strike Grows; State Threatens Disciplinary Action

we should all be concerned , these are human life's and many of them forgotten the one thing that brings us together is we all breath and bleed irregardless of color,and no one knows there tomorrow. and sadly there are those that promised to serve and protect and have forgotten there oath,and have become felons with a badge,lets support these inmates ,How would you respond if these basic necessity's were taken from you.in life you one day will be treated the way you treat others..think on that treat others as you want to be treated woe to those that have mistreated Gods people.

Inside of Pelican Bay....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...For those of you who don't know.

Most cops refuse to take a job here unless they have to. It's where they keep the worst of the worst.

Inmates lie and tell their wives, family, and girlfriends about how they are being treated mean by cops. They even lie about the crimes they get disciplined for while in the pen. Theyll tell you they got put in the SHU for a drawing on their wall, when really it's the case that they stabbed somebody on the yard because some guy won't pay his drug debt. They'll tell their wives that they lost their visiting privileges for talking too long on the phone. When really, it's because they got busted at their last visit (that their wife didn't know about) getting drugs smuggled in by one of their pen pal girlfriends, who managed to fit a whole ounce of marijuana inside of her vagina.

You people can't have it both ways. Either we're mean old cops that could care less if the inmates die, or we're oh too friendly cops who bring in cell phones and contraband. We can't be both at the same time! Most cops are neither, but you don't get to see any of that. Once put behind prison walls, it's out of sight, out of mind. We protect your loved ones from getting killed and killing each other. And we do it outnumbed 100 to 1, without guns on our belts, and very often with just keys alone.

There are some inmates that I've worked with that I can almost trust with my life. I know that they will have my back. I've worked with them for years and stood up for them when they were wrongly accused. I've resolved disputes for them and made their prison stay real smooth.I treated them right and with respect, and they treat me the same in return.  Then there are some inmates that I can't trust with anything.

By the time an inmate makes it to the SHU, he's already had several trips to AdSeg ("the hole"). He's been transfered in and is taken out of the general population because he is a threat to even other inmates. A lot of SHU inmates have hundred-year sentences for killing other inmates while in prison, and many of them are proud. Coming to Pelican Bay is considered a badge of honor for them, and the make more money selling drugs in prison than they do out.

What a spin the CDC(R) puts on this! Inmates in the short corridor were put on a "modified program" where they do not get 10 hours of "yard time" in another concrete box, and are given write ups for conversing with other inmates. Saying hello to a neighboring inmate is considered gang activity and a justification to extend SHU terms.

Thornton said "That's not to say they aren't eating at all; some are munching from their canteens, or the snack food they are allowed to purchase while in prison".

Thats absolutely FALSE!  The guards at Pelican Bay removed all canteen and all food items from cells the day before the strike.  They said they did that to monitor how much inmates are eating (if they accept their meals or not). 

Everything the CDCR is saying is BS!

Yes, these inmates did a crime, and they're doing their time. They take full responsibility, many have been in these small cells for years. That doesn't make it right for them to be treated like that! Regardless, they are human whether you like it or not. They aren't asking for the red carpet, very simple things, that our State can't comply with. How can we expect the State of California to better things in prison when they can't even run the state right? I say let there be a different way of getting out the SHU then debriefing! That's the main focus. That's not true about being validated the first time yes all they need is 2 informants, once they do the 6 year term, they try and find anything a card a piece of paper with certain names or someone debriefing just throwing out a name and you get another 6 year term! This way of validation is uncalled for there should be a investigation when being validated.

If he's in the SHU, 99.99% of the time he's there for a very darn good reason. It's hard enough to validate active gang members in prison. You need at least three confirmed independent sources. It takes more than a tattoo on your face or note in your locker to confirm you are active in a prison gang. Heck, it even takes even more than active participation in a riot or stabbing a guy on the yard! Gang investigators have to prove a connection before they are able to send you to the SHU. Until then it's a temporary stay in AdSeg (a.k.a. "The Hole") for misbehavior, a place where it too includes cable TV,radio,  personal mail, yard time and weekly canteen draws.I see so many times where the media's like, "Look at that poor little boy in four-point chains and leg restraints! He's got four mean old cops on him, with their batons open, and he has to wear that scary spit mask! Mean old cops! Leave him alone!" What they don't tell you is why he has to be transported that way. Maybe it's because he likes to throw feces into the faces of whatever cop approaches his cell with his evening meal. Maybe it's because the last officer he met yesterday got his throat slit with a paperclip from his legal papers. Maybe because, despite the fact that he's only 120 lbs., he raped and murdered his 240 lbs cellie the other week and could care less about being transferred to death row, which would actually be an upgrade to his present arrangement.

Just let 'em continue. The problem will solve itself.

Who cares??

Just keep you eye focused on the bouncing ball - interesting times for both sides to see who backs down first.. and how [or who] many will fall - either physically or politically.... this is not a win win for the state as more scrutiny will fall on the CDCR with every day that goes by....