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No wonder the CEO stepped down. They will be paying for this mistake. Big idea. How about leaving prototypes inside the company. Test them out and about during work hours and they have to be returned to the office at days end. No more drunk idiots to leave them around.
So far there is not even evidence that supports bringing charges against News of the world in the UK, let alone speculation over whether or not Fox news will be allowed to broadcast in the US any longer. It begs the question, What Is the Role of Media in Politics
Apple Employee gets drunk and looses (another) prototype iPhone . That has nothiong to do with a crime , even if the guy had found it in the bar!
So has anyone wondered how the iphones GPS is so suddenly accurate as to pinpoint a actual address in San Francisco? For those of you who have used MobileMe you all know that it does not give an exact address so how in the hell did apple choose this guys address over his neighbors, Ive used it & its crappy at best but low & behold they knock on his door. The phone had to be on, so why not just ring it or use the MobileMe extremely loud ring feature. This sounds very fishy to me, since homes in SF are so tightly packed together who's to say his next door neighbor didn't have the phone. All being said & done its time to retain a Lawyer, this persons rights have been violated regardless of how dumb he was initially, I see a huge payout from apple be it done privately or if this goes to court. Actually his dumbness has probably just scored him big time.
Hey some of these are honest responses by people that have yet to have their unrealistic view of things regarding police shattered. The reality of things is that the way things "should be" is far too often NOT the way it is. Until you get roughed up belittled and threatened by armed people in uniform, paid to PROTECT you, then it is really difficult that what goes on all over this country truly is real possibility. You can big talk all you want about how someone should have/could have handled things to avoid being victim of the police, but quite often had you been in the shoes of some folks with similar tales, it would have been no different for you...it is just a sad sad fact, reality is not at all like the picture we see painted of law enforcement on all these TV cop shows. The sad fact is there are LOTS AND LOTS of people that have no business wearing a badge,because to them everyone outside their immediate family and fellow police employees are just scum they have to deal with. To this sort you are just someone that needs to shut your mouth and do exactly what they want you to, and no you don't deserve any kind of respect, any kind of explanation at all to what they are doing or why, in fact with far too many of these mean minded cops, they would just love to find the right buttons to push if they could provoke you to losing your cool, it would just orgasmishly make their day if they could justify knocking the crap out of you, tazing you into seizure, or even to empty a magazine of 9 mil into your torso if they could do it without getting fired. If you REALLY don't believe that there are bunches of these types all over this nation of ours then all I can say is that you are so sadly mistaken, you just are leading a blissful sheltered life, likely are of the proper socioeconomic profile and are of an age/color/attire that keeps you off these guy's radar in whatever neck of the woods you live in. On one hand you are fortunate but on the other you just make yourself out to be an ignorant fool. Also you are a sitting duck should some unusual chain of events lead you to end up in the wrong place at the wrong time because you might just decide to try and put one of these wrong headed cops in their place with some threats to their job or whatever and end up waking up cuffed in the ER with gaping wounds you received resisting arrest or whatever ...go on and laugh, tell us all how it really is. But afterwards try to find an honest cop somewhere that will actually give you an off the record heart to heart and then just ask him/her if all the above is not so....because sorry about that... IT IS!
Here's what happened (most likely)
Retired cop calls in some of his buddies that are still on the police force. He knows he won't get anywhere if he shows up and says he's from Apple. But why 4 other cops? He figures if he shows up with 4 other cops it's more intimidating plus when they all flash badges the person won't be able to tell which ones say police and which ones say Apple.
This was not an official call, but a few cops helping out a retiree. Then the story hits and the police say no house was ever searched. Uh oh, better get that fixed asap. They can't say the cops were in on the search because they didn't follow proper process, so instead they say they escorted apple to the residence.
Just enough to get them off the hook (they hope).
Or this is just another PR stunt from apple.
you are all stupid people... you think you are all brave and strong... i just wonder what you will do when someone actually knock at your door and start asking you stuff. fuck heads
Sadly, if they voluntarily let in the group to search, no warrant is needed and no crime committed. Kind of like when the cops say "can you shown us what is in your trunk?".
Sounds like you don't have a choice but you are actually waiving your rights. Awesome.
While there was no "illegal search" because he let them in, there's still the crime of "impersonating a police officer."
Apple and the SFPD should be asked for comments before publishing such reports. While the story is quite worrisome and such searches are not unprecendented, it seems always better to give the other sides an opportunity to be heard.
Did ya miss the part about "Apple's media-relations department did not return calls for comment"?
Or the part where they got the statement from Lt. Troy Dangerfield of the SFPD?
How have they not been asked for comments?
Apple security appears to have something the SFPD lacks: the ability to solve crimes, and an interest in doing so. This is a simple lost phone--imagine what they could do with a murder! I encourage the city to pursue this exciting opportunity, and offer Cupertino a complete buy-out on favorable terms.
I would also like to know if the investigators asked for a bite of the family's dinner, and if refused, punched anybody in the face. It would help me decide who's really involved.
Perhaps SFPD should get acquainted with the 4th Amendment to the Constitution. Where was the search warrant. Perhaps Apple should be charged with unlawful trespass.
" We had no part in the investigation........We did assist Apple security.......There is no official report...... Sounds like a presidential news conference !!!!!!
Some more speculation: Calderón was holding out for a big payday with his found iPhone. And the iPhone 4/Jason Chen experience means no tech blogger in the entire SF area would touch it. What tech blogger wants to find themselves the sacrificial lamb to this story, again? It doesn't work out the way we would like to imagine. The tech blogs see a surge in interest, but it fades away, they don't see a big payday. It just turns in to publicity for Apple. It makes their products more desirable to have all this excitement and intrigue surrounding them. There's also the nasty fact that if you had the iPhone and knew who it belonged to and refused to give it back, then you broke the law, too.
Perhaps Calderón has been sitting on the phone asking a ridiculous price. After all, Jason Chen paid $5,000 for the iPhone 4. And when Apple and the SFPD (4 men, two women) came to his door, he thought it was payday (completely misunderstanding who it was at his door). And they only offered a mere $300 for it. He let them in his house expecting a big fat stack of cash.
Perhaps when he contacted the blogs, it was so questionable and laughable that everyone ignored him. Maybe he's not that bright.
As far as everyone who hates Apple is concerned, it's a total abuse of power and poor, sweet, innocent Mr Calderón is being bullied and has nowhere to turn... accept the SF Weekly who paid him for an interview?
In the end it looks like this: Calderón wasn't bright enough to get what he wanted for the iPhone. The tech blogs are in the same place, with grudges and vendettas against Apple, the SFPD can do what it wants, and Apple will report billions and billions and billions earned for its shareholders. Get used to this story.
I bet Mr Colderón is really really really wishing he never picked up that phone at that bar. He should have just took it to the bar tender and said "someone left this here". Instead, he's found himself in a mess.
The officers remained outside, according to the guy whose home was searched. The search was conducted by Apple employees who failed to identify themselves and who purported to be police officers. The police never filed a report about an incident in which they allowed civilians to conduct a residence search. There is nothing kneejerk about this reporting.
The SFPD now reports that genuine officers did, indeed, accompany Apple security to the home. So, there never was any scandal - just kneejerk reporting before the facts became clear. Yet, the front page of the site still shows "iPhone 5 Scandal," milking the unjustified page views. The real story should be "Local paper gets hit on head and thinks it's a blog"
So what we have is a retired cop who lands a plum gig at Apple and is trying to make his bones. Bet the company regrets hiring this loose cannon right about now. It's not often a new employee can generate this amount of bad publicity.
I'm impressed with this report. This is the kind of story that should be in the news, not sex scandals and celebrity gossip. Thank you for responsible reporting.
You're joking... right?
A story entirely based on speculation and reported with a clear and obvious agenda. From the SF Weekly? Real news?
This is just big corporations and authority abuse. This is already the main theme of the news every day, everywhere.
Maybe all the cops thought that the suspects from the 49er game beating and shootings were there. Maybe the cops thought the suspects that stabbed 5 people, beat senseless another man and shot up the restaurant at 32nd & Noriega this week were there. Maybe the cops thought the thugs who robbed the club and shot the waitress on Howard St. this week were there. Maybe the cops thought the two robbers who beat a man unconcious on Market St. this past week were there. Maybe the cops thought the suspects who shot and killed three people this week on the "safe" streets of San Francisco were there. This caper was not even a crime. It was a lost property situation which SFPD is never interested in. Follow the money. A dysfunctional and hapless police department.
The one time the police came through when I lived in SF is when a few drunks from Ireland beat the hell out of our bartender and attacked me when I pulled them off, the cops showed up too late, and myself and our regulars spread out and found them at another bar with thier ladies. WE did all the leg work and WE only called them in after the investigative lot of it was finished. They're uniforms with cuffs and weapons, nothing more proactive than a toaster.
Oh boy... you didn't read clearly did you.
It said "26 year veteran". He worked for them for 26 years. It did not say he was 26 years old.
It seems that Apple is competent at breaking laws but not at NOT LOSING THEIR STUPID PHONES IN THE FIRST PLACE.Good job Apple, now go home and die.
They should take their cues from companies like Google, with the whole "don't be evil" sham... I mean motto. Cuz companies like Google never break laws (not counting the one where they just had to pay a $500,000,000 fine). Other than that, Google sets the standard and always will for ever and ever until the end of time.
in Texas especially some of the more rural areas we would hold the invaders at gun point until the authorities arrived and verified the identies of the invaders as for Tony Colon I would have beaten his ass pistol whipped him and then peed on his rotten carcass what a bunch of loser ass holes that work for apple and many of you rave about them I will never buy any item apple makes and the fools that buy from them deserve all the invations of privacy that youll experience if you do business with them the apple doesnt fall from the tree
way to go kwing thats what our country need more people that see the truth the corporate asses of america are attempting to make rules up as they go for theirselves and greedy share holders remember what a dog meat stock apple was for years and of course all of the ignorant technonurds keep elevating the apples of this world I say lets take the country back form the rat Bastards
way to go isoahrt i agree with you I am of the internet Generation and like many of the early pioneers of technology I loved the technology and alas saw that it was designed to control me wake up america they are trying to control you use technology as a tool and nothing more as for colon and his coharts they would have left my home in Santa Fe Texas in police cars ambulances or body Bags be aware corporate america were going to take the country back before you further destabilaze our country and if that means some of you dont survive so be it time for Patriots to join together and stop the invasion of our rights colon youre going down watch your back ass hole cop
CNN is reporting that the 6 people who raided this guy's house were 4 real SFPD officers and 2 Apple security officers. The Apple officers did most of the searching while the real cops waited outside. The resident said that he thought they were all real police officers and he would not have let the Apple people into his house. http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/m...
How can the police say they take something seriously and then say they don't care enough to investigate? It seems to me if they cared about police impersonation they would proactively investigate a widely publicized claim. If they didn't care they would ignore it until someone forces them to investigate. There statement seems to be much more of the second kind of reaction than the first.
Of course they need to investigate to determine what actually happened. I too would think impersonating police officers is a serious crime that if ignored fosters people's distrust of whoever claims they are police. That wouldn't be good for police. I guess they have to weigh that against the thin blue line and whether potentially bothering former police is worth investigating impersonation of the police.
If this was my house they would have been greeted with a 10mm in their face. Of course apple thinks they are the law. Remember they had the Secret Service at their beck and call a few weeks back. F apple and die steve jobs
Interesting strategy by ohiseeyou! Except, from what I understand, if you know that the people (even if actual police officers) do not have any authority to search your home, and with this knowledge you let them anyway search your home with the intention of filing a illegal search lawsuit, you are not entitled to that lawsuit!
I don't think he has the "high degree of emotional intelligence" that his linkedin page claims.
lol... cops don't even find stolen cars barely, and usually by tips from people not tracking by GPS. They couldn't give a crap about a phone even less. At best, if you happened to know an officer and asked him as a favor, maybe... mayyybe one cop would show up and ask a question or two. But never do an actual search, lest he risk his job over a stupid phone. This was clearly the work of apple, as can be seen just by the number of people involved during the violation of that poor family's privacy, and the bad track record that apple has as being the paranoid to loose anything. Seeing as how they almost went bankrupt had Microsoft not lent them some cash about a decade or two ago.
Five police officers search a man's house, on behalf of Apple, while searching for the iPhone prototype. They even threaten to call INS on his family. Sounds like dirty cops to me. I hope someone identifies them, publicly.
What I don't get is why, after the last time, another iPhone was found at a public place?Either Apple employees are incompetent, not being kept in line, or this is just a marketing ploy.
And now suddenly SFPD is saying they did help with the search? "Oh sorry, we just forgot. Duhhh".
There's so much bulls**t in this story I can smell it from Oz.
I'm surprised that Calderon couldn't tell the difference between a real cop and an Apple poofter cop. Here's the dead give-a-way. If your name is Calderon and the cops aren't tasering your nuts like it was a fourth of july bar-b-que then they're fake cops. Get hip Chooch.
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