Chron's C.W. Nevius Can't Define the Word 'Hipster'

• Nevius was right the first time - those asshats ARE hipsters. They just don't like to be called that because its become a term of derision meaning "cynical, jobless, dick with no unique skills."

• John is a definite hipster.  He is the only candidate I have ever know who knows who The Minuteman are!

• I think they prefer to be called 'trustafarians'.

• Nevius compounded the problem by linking to that ludicrous Adbusters article from 2008 that called hipsters the "dead end of Western Civilization."  It's worth reading if you want a laugh, but the idea that anyone takes that overheated garbage seriously is frightening.

• For my money, a key part of being a hipster is a sense of cooler-than-thou detachment. I use "hipster" to describe people who are too cool to get involved or show that they're passionate about things. And Able, what do you mean by Avalos voters being "the political equivalent of a hipster"? Looking at these pictures from the Avalos kickoff rally, the crowd looks like a mix of ages and ethnicities that doesn't fit so neatly into a single stereotype: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62391918@N06/sets/72157626923587610/

• I would put forth that the best definition of "hipster" is someone who adopts a fashion type as cool simply because it seems novel, is repudiated by an establishment, or because perceived peers see it as such, despite its obvious lunacy. PBR will always be crap beer no matter who thinks being seen drinking it is cool. Generally speaking, dressing like an extra from the film "Cruising" also has its limits. I also dispute the focus on age. There are hipsters in their forties and (especially) fifties, we just call them d0uches and c0cks. While the hipster phenomenon is separate from politics, I think it can be said that the typical Avalos voter is the political equivalent of a hipster.

• This isn't surprising, I suppose. The terms "beatnik,'' and "hippie'' have been in common usage, although I am of the generation that remembers that "real'' hippies looked down in scorn at wannabe's and faux-hippies, as well as at the news organizations who tried to work the term into their copy......................................................................................................you are correct ..the above is the real meaning of hipster............. Hipsters are the new hippie..clouded political views,that they will take action on,the trustfunds are the same...the hair is worse,and they do look down on each other(for hipster reasons..i.e. not cool or gay enuff)..the drugs are better along with the bicycles...but the "outfits" are just as bad..if not borrowed from the "hippie" era...plus it makes all these twentysomethings feel like they are part of something,even though its just problems....but problems they will benefit  from...I.e gentrification.....they say they hate it,but create it...and will be able to not only afford the inflated price...but maintain its value by following natural human progression(starting ignorant and getting more ignorant) ......for they are all sheep....hipster and cool will never rhyme......key bumps in the bathroom at benders may be hip....but kilos and lines off tables is cool...5k fixies are hip......motorbikes are cool....shitty art and ironic graffiti are hip......art history and museums are cool...thats why I love being black.....we always been cool...

• The blog post is a great deal of an email conversation that we at The Tender had with Nevius and we were actually responsible for his tour of the Loin as well that brought about the column article.  As soon as the article came out, it smacked of some higher up acting like he/she knew better.  First there was the print edition that called the area he was writing about the "TenderNob".  That it most assuredly is not.  Then, when the online edition rolled out, the forced use of hipster derailed the entire conversation to be about "hipsters suck". Point being, it doesn't really matter what a hipster is or isn't.  The fact is that we have some great, local businesses opening up in the Loin and the neighborhood has really developed in the last three years.  Some of these people have tats, hats, and bikes and some don't and some are a mix. All I can hope is that if the Chron does anymore articles on the Loin that they'll not try to "know better" as that's what's killing them as a publication.

• Judging from the John Avalos events I've been too, if supporting Avalos makes you a hipster, then there are a bunch of Latino, Filipino, and African-American hipsters on top of the traditional young, white hipsters who support John.

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