Charles Hill BART Shooting Video

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Acquiescing to public demand, BART today released surveillance videos of the shooting death of Charles Hill, a transient who was killed by transit police over the July 4 weekend, sparking raucous protests.

Hill, 45, was shot on the Civic Center platform after purportedly menacing an officer with knives and a bottle.

Those hoping to understand why the homeless man died a violent death will not be satisfied by this footage. 

In this video, we do not see Hill. We do, however, see a police officer step off a train. At around the 53-second mark he unholsters his weapon and, not five seconds later, fires it. An object -- one of Hill's two knives, according to BART spokesman Jim Allison -- whisks through the periphery of the frame.

Witnesses to the shooting said Hill was not running or lunging toward the officers. No footage to verify that exists, according to Allison. Screen captures from the enhanced version of the video can be seen after the jump.

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An unnamed BART police officer fires on Charles Hill
BART will shortly release footage of a news conference in which, presumably, someone will explain the significance of this surveillance footage. That will be posted here.  

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The blue circle highlights one of the knives Hill carried, according to BART officials


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CAMERA GUY
CAMERA GUY

Time to upgrade their video surveillance.

Nedra Ruiz
Nedra Ruiz

If you wonder why demonstrators are protesting lethal force on BART, watch this video. I think it shows that when Hill (off camera) saw the uniformed police officers, he threw his knife DOWN, so as to disarm himself.  You can see the knife sliding across the floor. At that instant Hill was shot to death. I think there were alternatives to shooting Hill dead: one of the officers had a taser but never deployed sit.  I don't think bullets should fly in the BART.

Nedra Ruiz
Nedra Ruiz

Anyone who wonders why demontrators are protesting BART's use of lethal force must watch this video. Hill was shot AFTER  he  threw the knife he had down and away. You can see it sliding across the smooth subway station floor.  The cops responded to a report that Hill appeared confused and armed with a knife. It has never been alleged that Hill brandished the knife or that he had threatened any person, prior to the arrival of the police. The video proves that Hill didnt throw the knife at the police, he threw the knife down in a attempt to disarm himself. I do not think his actions justify his shooting. Bullets flying in BART is bad police work. 

BM
BM

Are you serious?  I can see the argument with being without a knife after he threw it and therefore being unarmed but you are seriously going to argue that Hill threw the arm down as an attempt to disarm himself?  Did you see how far that knife went across the floor?  A person disarming themself flings the knife up in the air and it bounces a few times or simply DROPS the knife.  They don't throw it with the force shown in this video or at a person.  You have made a highly illogical conclusion here.

Duncanpuppy
Duncanpuppy

Thank you Police Officers........thank you for your sacrifice in the job you do.Their are many people who believe in you, and pray that you end each shift safely to go home to be with your families. Thank you for making it safe for me to be with mine.Your job is noble, even if not appreciated by some.

trancevict
trancevict

I dont think anyone should throw knives at cops ar anyone else..pretty much a deadly weapon dontcha think? If u dont wanna get shot, dont be an a-hole

Awayneramsey
Awayneramsey

Ihave no interest in causing more emotional pain concerning the lateCharles Hill, but a cursory citizen examination by myself discoveredan entry in the United States Department of Justice sex offenderregistry (http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/Port...containing an image that appears to represent if not, to be, Mr.Hill. Could there have been more to this violent event than a veryinebriated man with a broken booze bottle and "two pocket knives... say "official revenge killing?" Is it not enoughpunishment that a man is marked for life, for all the world to see inAmerica's notorious National Sex Offender Public website?

J_H_M
J_H_M

The video above is just one view from one camera at one vantage point.  There surely was more than that one camera in the vicinity of the shooting.  Does anyone know what other video BART has, or should have of the general area around the shooting?

If any of the relevant video was "lost", or is "no longer available" or if any of the cameras in the general vicinity were said to have "malfunctioned" during the time of the shooting, what verification if any has been made, and by who?

Why hasn't this additional video been released?

Does BART have the needed rules and regulations in place to make sure that there isn't even the appearance of the distruction of possibly releavant video evidence of a police use of force incident?

J_H_M
J_H_M

The BART police persons pictured above, both the "newbie" shooter and his more experienced side-kick, don't seem to have either name tags nor badges (with badge numbers). Did BART not only obscure their faces but also their name tags and badges with badge numbers)?

Does anyone know if BART allows its police persons to run around without their name tags and badges while on duty and while in uniform?

While whoever "negotiated' the release of the video was certainly justified in accepting a video with the identity of the shooter as well the identity of his more experience side-kick obscured if that is what it took to get it released that day, it is hard to imagine any legitimate way that a police person could claim that its "privacy" should be protected where it was videotaped, in uniform, on duty, in a public place (such as for example while shooting somebody at a BART station.)

There is a good argument that a police person while on duty NEVER has an expectation of privacy (except possibly, while standing at a urinal or sitting on a commode and doing so in an orderly lawful manner).

Does anyone know what if anything is claimed as the legal basis for not releasing the full unedited video, rather than a version with the BART police persons faces obscured and if they were wearing them, their name tags and badges (with badge numbers) obscured?

Or, is this just a case of: we don’t want to disclose who the video taped police persons are and you can’t make us because we are police persons and we don‘t want to.

”The BART police chief was quoted in one press account as saying that a copy of the original tape, showing the BART police persons faces (and presumably also their badge numbers and name tags) would be releases eventually. If eventually why not now, while it still relevant to the disposition of the aftermath of the shooting?

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Running around a crowded, enclosed basement with a gun. What an idiot.

Richard H
Richard H

Who was running around?

transvict
transvict

I didnt see anyone running around with a gun either...dont know what that dude was talking about

MrEricSir
MrEricSir

Do you not speak English? It's an expression, smartass.

GrammarCop84
GrammarCop84

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Pretty sure even after being trained so well that "they're the only one in the room qualified enough to handle this gun," they can still manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Idiot.

Yes, even if you are trained, shooting in a crowded underground rail station - essentially a "basement" - is pretty damn stupid.

Winston
Winston

Pretty sure cops are trained on how to fire a gun idiot.

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