Apple Asked to Scrap Apps That Help Users Evade DUI Checkpoints

• Ingersoll Rand is a tool company. Ingersoll v Palmer is the DUI case.

• I live in a state (Oregon) where DUI checkpoints have been ruled unconstitutional by the state Supreme Court.Thank goodness somebody had some common sense.

• Dates and location for DUI checkpoints, believe it or not, are reported in local papers BEFORE they even go up. Hard to believe these senators are making an issue of this.

• Thanks for the info. My understanding under Ingersoll v. Rand is that the checkpoint must be pre-published, but they do not need to disclose the exact location (street or intersection). Also, in line with alternate routes, motorists are allowed to avoid the checkpoints if they can legally turn or u-turn out of the line, and they cannot be detained merely for attempting to avoid a checkpoint. Rather than "random," perhaps the best term for who they stop is "mathematical" or "formulaic:" it must be something like every other car, or every 5th car, not just whoever they want. Also importantly, checkpoints must be highly visible, with indicators such as flashing lights, uniformed officers, etc. In all, I see that these apps do serve a useful purpose in potentially pinpointing exact locations of sobriety checkpoints. Due to the requirement for pre-publication, high visibility, legality for avoidance, I cannot see how the police can seek to curtail knowledge of something as public as a sobriety checkpoint. If I see one or am in line for one, I can pull over, leave, phone my friends, update my facebook profile to tell people where it is...or update an app for others to check. A huge part of regulating sobriety checkpoints is to give public due notice and an opportunity to avoid.

• In California, Police are not required to pre-publish or disclose the location of the checkpoints at any given time. The way they perform the stops are to be "at random" where they select a given amount of cars at a time, and after they are done checking those cars they must let at least another given amount pass by without checking them. One other thing to note is that they are checking for valid drivers licenses to make sure people are driving legally. And if they happen to come across reasonable suspicion that someone has been drinking or is currently under the influence, then they will remove the given car from the lineup and further investigate. On a slightly different note, all checkpoints (in California) must have at least one alternate route. So if you don't want to wait in line, simply pull the next legal u-turn and take the side streets.

• Aren't police typically required to pre-publish the location and times of such checkpoints, as in the newspaper? There are usually extremely narrow legal allowances for these kinds of warrantless, suspicionless stops. I can't see how they get off yanking an app that merely aggregates public information disseminated by the police in the first place.

• There's is right.

• Just rebrand the app as traffic congestion avoidance, give the user the ability to select the types of traffic to avoid; sig alert, construction zone, police activity, include DUI checkpoints as police activity,

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