Five Reasons Tyler, the Creator Suuucks

The first time we saw Tyler the Creator's video for "Yonkers," we were totally blown away. It was sharp, it was dark, it was infectious, it was crazy different. We immediately got all excited about this new rapper and his collective, Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All... until we realized they're all complete fucking idiots and "Yonkers" was a fluke. Here's five reasons Tyler the Creator suuucks.

1. He's (Still) Prattling on About Columbine

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First, Tyler Tweeted "R.I.P" to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold -- who, lest we forget, murdered 13 people and injured 24 at their high school in 1999. Then he said they were "probably really cool people." Then, when people objected, he weakly stated: "I wasn't saying what they did was right." Then, most recently, he told Respect Magazine that if another Columbine was to occur, he would be the one to get the blame, "just like it was Em's and Marilyn's and fucking Slipknot's [fault] and all them motherfuckers." Hey Tyler, if you're going to keep bringing up the Columbine tragedy in a totally insensitive and ass-backwards manner that both disrespects victims and supports murderers, don't then start whining about how everyone will blame you if it happens again. Learn when to shut the hell up.

2. He's a Rampant Misogynist



Sure, rap ain't been that kind to women over the years (we are, of course, understating massively) but Tyler doesn't just hate women -- he is obsessed with hating women. There are near-constant references to "fat black bitches" in OFWGKTA songs. On Tyler The Creator's ultra-hateful "Transylvania," he happily states that he'd like an "all beige suit made out of white women." The fetishistic violence against women in his songs, as well as the constant reduction of females to merely sex objects ("Bitch, Suck Dick" anyone?), isn't ironic, it isn't clever, and it isn't funny. It is pure hate -- real and simple. How come hate-speak is so acceptable when it's aimed at females? If this stuff was written about minorities or religious groups, the world would be in a gigantic uproar.

3. He's Not Keen on the Gays, Either

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At this point, trying to find a rapper that doesn't use the word "faggot" is a lot harder than finding one that does. The thing that makes Tyler even more annoying than the others is that when he got called out on it, he told MTV: "Well, I have gay fans and they don't really take it offensive, so I don't know," He also claimed he wasn't homophobic. Isn't that a bit like the racists who constantly declare they have black friends as a defense? Beyond weak.

4. He's Scared of Repercussions


The statement at the beginning of "Radicals" says it all: "Random disclaimer. Hey, don't do anything that I say in this song, okay? It's fuckin' fiction. If anything happens, don't fucking blame me, white America." So he's not actually worried if his demand here to "kill people, burn shit, fuck school" actually comes to anything -- he's just worried that if it does, he might get in some trouble. What kind of nihilistic tough guy are you, anyway? One that's worried about getting arrested? Or criticized? Either way, don't try to weasel out of inciting violent behavior with half-assed disclaimers. And don't add "Fuck Bill O'Reilly" to the end of this one to imply that anyone who thinks you're a douche is some crazed right-wing lunatic. Us lefties think you're a dick, too.

5. He Perpetuates Stereotypes About Young Black Males
 


In Tyler's world, young black males are school-hating, jobless, graffiti-loving, gun-toting, woman-raping, drug-using, alcohol-abusing layabouts, with no desire to contribute anything to the community around them or society at large. They have no hope for the future and are bitter about the past. We're sure the young black men who are working hard to break down racist barriers and eradicate negative stereotypes are super-duper grateful for your output, Tyler. We're sure it's hella fun trying to make rich white people scared of you, but there's enough prejudice in the world as it is.

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tessa.marie970
tessa.marie970

Whoever wrote this article clearly didn't do any research on Tyler. He's not racist, homophobic, or sexist. He's a really talented dude.

darekd124
darekd124

OFWGKTA!!! GOLFWANG GO TYLER!! SF WEEKLY SUS!!

darekd124
darekd124

OFWGKTA!!! GOLFWANG GO TYLER!! SF WEEKLY SUS!!

ryeder84
ryeder84

He's an asshole. Simple as that.


Imaguy
Imaguy

Tyler, The Creator, isn't homophobic, he was the first one to stand up and support Frank Ocean's coming out of the closet, plus, this isn't any definite evidence that he's not misogynistic (I choose to believe he's not just cos he's cool and shit) but in all the interviews he's been he's almost always talked about how much of a strong impact his mother had in his life. I don't know, I doubt he'd be a sexist asshole with a mom that's sounds as awesome as her. Also this doesn't matter, but I'm a hardcore liberal, and Tyler, Creator, OFWGKTA, and friends are awesome. But I guess I'm just a wasted youth.

savagescience
savagescience

In art, there's a concept of the "idiot" who does what the intelligent virtuous hero couldn't. He isn't inviting people to be like him, but he represents things that we feel sometimes but know better than to act upon. It's similar to the dark fantasy of gangster rap but more attuned to the demons of the common suburban listener. And his dj is a girl and "big brother" frank ocean is openly gay.

Hembleciya13
Hembleciya13

It's not just the fact that his music is gimmicky and full of bad messages... he's a fucking terrible rapper as well. Making excuses for him like some of the fans have done here is idiotic - Tyler is a grown ass dude and if he wants to sell his soul to make some money, that's him fucking up and doesn't need teenagers defending his choices. Also, his music just blows.

harleyquinn.and.pois
harleyquinn.and.pois

And also, Tyler feed off the hateful energy he receives. If all is too well he does things or says things deliberately to upset you. It's like crack for him, that's why he was so happy when Bruno Mars dissed him back. He is actually SURPRISED when people call him their role model and he makes the stupidest, tackiest clothes because HE knows their bad and knows you will think so too and doesn't understand why people like them (He has stated this in an interview). 

 

Most celebrities do everything they can to get in the good light but tyler doesn't. He gets critized, he keeps doing what it is he does to get more. I believe that's why OF is offended by what he says about them because they know  he wants a reaction. 

 

Tyler's a mama's boy. He curses like a sailor and insults like it's his job but that's about it. Just a kid who likes to rap and skateboard. 

harleyquinn.and.pois
harleyquinn.and.pois

You people take things way to seriously and not only that but you are all quick to judge without BG information. Nothing is ever as simple as black and white, there's many different shades of gray in between as well. As a fan I can you this;1. He's not as douchey as he sounds.  Or as he tried to make himself to be. If you ever listened to some of his songs, he states this, that its only for the fans and for the media. Ever since Kanye put him out there, people are expecting alot from him and he doesn't know what to deliver. Sure he has his "Racist, prejudice, insensitive" lyrics, but that's only for airplay, listen to the rest of the album and you hear him tell a little about his REAL feelings, thoughts and character. The badass, blatant and rude gimmick is exactly what it is... A gimmick. 

 

I'm not saying Tyler isn't an ass. But he's not a fucking monster. 

 

I find it ironic too how everyone here is willing to preach about how he doens't deserve fame and he's this and that like your all saints. We're teenagers. We fuck up time to time. Leave it alone. 

 

David
David

Seriously. You guys need to learn just what the fuck the boundaries are for being a human being. If i was black, i would not be proud of this fascist, insensitive douchebag. Kill people, burn shit, fuck school? Come on kids, fuck that class and hit that bong (or something like that)? seriously. i think that defeats the purpose of him being a "good kid," outside of music. This person does not give credit nor raises the values his race. People like Martin Luther King Jr do. NOT him and his immature "wolfgang." I would argue that most of his fans are rebellious, unprincipaled, and disturbed people. I will fucking guarantee that when you have your children and finally MATURE, you will NOT listen to this music. Damn people.....you praise the shit in this world that corrupts America's society. Good job.

Chanchar
Chanchar

The faggot that wrote this took what tyler says anally. Its fiction. Calm the fuck down

JJ Nelson
JJ Nelson

The funny thing is that this article isn't stupid or dishonest, it just got bombarded by OF groupies. Great guys, we know you want to suck Tyler's dick. Now we got reminded.

Still, I'll say the article isn't amazing either. More evidence could've been presented, which is abundant since the points presented are in fact true(beyond his lyrics he's said things to speak to all of the above.) Tyler rightfully would say a lot of his lyrics are figurative. While that doesn't automatically make them okay, it's not even my problem with him. When he says shit about the Columbine guys being cool, I don't care if he's a "troll" like most of these people brush off, those guys were murders. That's fucked and everyone should agree. At the end of the day, I find this kid Tyler to be a punk and a douche bag. That may not directly affect his music, but it goes into the thinking into how much an artist is liked and should be supported. When he was called out as being misogynistic, he just said more stupid shit. 

Fuck Odd Future. Until they grow up, hip hop should leave them to the indie crowd.

Thelink1337
Thelink1337

Oh Your A Chick? No Wonder Your Being Such A Bitch. Now Get Off Tyler's Fucking Dick, Put In Your Fucking Tampon, And Go Make Me Dinner. I Honestly Never Knew How Ignorent A Woman Could Possibly Be Until I Read This Peice Of Shit Article About Your Feelings About A Hilarious Man In Odd Future. For You To SaybHe Hates Women Because He Says What Rhymes In His Songs Is So Fucking Funny I Forgot To Laugh. You Oblviously Havn't Looked Into Tyler The Creator's Bio. Where All The Good Writers Taking A Vacation And Then You Finally Got The Stupid Ass Thought In You Mind, "This Is My Chance..." This Is YOUR Opinion On His Music. YOUR'S. Not Everyone Else's So Stop Acying Like It Is. Tyler Speaks His Mind Just Like You So Stop Trying To Act Like Your Better Than Him. If You Know All Components Of Making Music Then Make Some. This Ignorent Post Is So Fucking Whiye Based. Are You White? You Seem White. A White Bitch.

Casey
Casey

Dude stfu... He's an entertainer, not a political statement so shut up about that black streotype thing you wrote. Nonetheless his raps are offensive, but he does that entirely because the reason of the lyrics being rediculus. It's funny when he is offensive because he's not serious whereas a political figure it isn't because he is serious. It is well worded and the first reason was good, but you sound like a fool without a clue of knowing it.

WolfGang
WolfGang

The funny thing is, Tyler doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, rape, or kill anyone. Listen deeper in his music before you write an article ranting on the loiter squad...Mmkaay? Goblin he saysalright guysyou caught meim not a serial killer... or a rapist. And goes on to say some other shit. He talks about how he doesnt do that stuff (who knows if its true) but I dont think he does. You dumbshits need to learn to appreciate music and WolfGangs humor.... the columbine thing is fucking hilarious. Its hilarious because no one else would ever say that. Fuck yall golfwang.

Kayla
Kayla

I MEAN I LOVE OFWGKTA I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY BITCH HE IS MR ROMODEL!!! FAGGOT

neecholas
neecholas

A BUNCH OF REASONS WHYRAE ALEXANDRA SUUUCKS,

AND A FEW REASONS WHYYOU TECHNICALLY CAN’T HATE HER.

By neecholas on behalfof the Odd Future Fan Base

            First and foremost, I have never bloggedor published anything on the web. With that said, I am unclear as to whatproper blogger etiquette consists of and will continue solely with focus on myfeelings and logic along with an intentional ignorance of cyber manners.

           From thejaw-dropping debut of ‘Bastard’ in 2009, one would assume the quality ofcritical reviews to increase as they are written more frequently. Unfortunatelythe opposite seems to stand as the popular trend among hungry bloggers asthey vent behind their iPads. I’m going to have to imagine sometime around lateNovember, after a long day of dealing with her bosses’ fist up her ass, theharsh lyrical talent of Wolf Haley must have struck a chord somewhere in the fedup, no longer in her twenties, just realized she’s about to her forties’, ohshit I hate this new offensive style of music, mind of the San Francisco Weeklywriter. In beautiful succession, I then imagine her plan of attack:

1. Ignoreany of the explanatory artist-exclusive interviews which illustrate Wolf Haley’sfoundation behind his lyrics.

2. Ignoreany previously written attacks on OFWGKTA, and especially ignore all of thecomments by readers and their hatred for haters such as yourself.

3. Ignore thefact that almost all of Odd Future’s melodic beats have been inspired by the ingeniousmind of Syd tha Kyd, who may I add if the responses haven’t already beenbranded into to your brain for eternity, is a lesbian.

4. Pull fivereasons (along with probably a bunch of other paraphernalia) out of your assabout why you and everyone should think Tyler sucks, and ignore any other musical,cinematic, or artistic content that has revolved around the same ideasregarding stereotypes, school shootings, rape, and pimp slapping ignorant hoessuch as yourself.

In motion to cease the hating and topromote an understanding, let us dissect Ms. Alexandra’s article on Tyler pieceby piece:

            We begin with the opening paragraph,in which Rae speaks for herself as well as another party. She explains how initially,she…and…someone, loved “Yonkers” for its provocative and dark nature, then “realizedthey're all complete fucking idiots and ‘Yonkers’ was a fluke.” First, let’sdefer any insight into who “we” is, and note that Rae’s bi-polar interest inmusic may be a red flag that she may indeed need to talk to Tron Cat moreurgently than Tyler. I am confident I speak for at least a few people that oneusually can tell whether or not they like a song the first time they hear it,given there are plenty of tracks that definitely creep up on you as well. Idefinitely don’t prematurely stoke out on a song, and then one morning wake uplike, “what the hell have I been doing the past three weeks.” I mean damn,maybe Rae’s right, there are plenty of flukes that pull over 40,000,000 viewsalong with numerous other pieces that amass more than that of “Yonkers.”

            I hope that in her response to this(if she can muster it,) she could provide us with an understanding of who “we”is. Any logical person would assume she is referring to her fellow colleaguesat SF Weekly. However, after giving it some thought, there has to be at least afew people that bleed Wolf Haley in some form or another (whether or not they’rewilling to admit it) out of the hundred or so staff members listed on the SFWeekly website. Pulling out all the stops here, if “we” isn’t Rae and hercolleagues, then “we” must be all of her readers of course. Hmm, almost 50comments and there are 1 ½ comments that support this article’s content. Damn,so it’s not the staff, and it’s not her readers, and it clearly isn’t Tyler’slisteners.

All in all, I believeRae’s use of “we” has perplexed us all…which already is a greater feat than herflaccid response to a foul-mouthed new artist.

           As we force ourselvespast the first paragraph, we move on to a numeric list that attempts to justifywhy Tyler, the Creator suuucks. I would like to take this time to thank Tyler on behalf of all the hatersfor including the painful events which took place at Columbine highschool in 1999 in his lyrical content. For without this, there would be oneless item to capture the passionate, embarrassingly incapable minds of hatersthroughout the world. Where should I start? “Scholastically violent event whichmusical content allegedly inspired, that will affect music far into theforeseeable future…….’Alex, what is Columbine?’ Ding, ‘that is correct John.’” Thesole fact that people such as Rae believe musical content to be a majorcontributor to these violent events gives artists the absolute right toreference Columbine in their work. What about the children’s upbringing? Theability to get their paws on automatic weapons? Chemical imbalances? What abouteven less direct issues like the drive to win for youth sport coaches thatproduces outcasts and social anxiety for the little leaguers who can’t perform?It is so baffling how one can even begin to blame artists such as Eminem andMarilyn Manson, whose music was never found in either Eric or Dylan’s diaries,or on their shirts, or pulsating through their ears. They listened to whitepower inspired music such as Rammstein and Pop Will Eat Itself, whose songtitles translate into “white flesh” and “the white will live on.” What startswith an I and rhymes with shmirony? Furthermore, I find it strange someone withsuch a broad expertise on new music aimed at college and high school studentsfailed to mention anything regarding the lyrics of Foster the People’s “PumpedUp Kicks.” I will be bothered the next time a kid goes on spree after findinghis dad’s gun in his closet, and no one blames Mark Foster for telling the kidwhere to look. Bash one song, bash them all Rae.  If you have a problem with someone wishingthat Eric and Dylan should rest in peace, I have a problem with you. Clearlynot Rae, nor anyone else were out there hoping or helping them to live inpeace. Something tells me they didn’t cock back and split the wig of that onegirl who helped them with their history homework, however I’m confident a fewof the football players who used to can the shooters at lunch are no longerrunning 4.4 second 40’s. I’m also confident that Eric and Dylan were prettycool people with plenty of potential, pre-bullying.  Lastly, seeing as though the entire “Goblin”album is a conversation between a troubled kid and his shrink named Tron Cat,it is clearly evident that Tyler is relating his fictional personality to thatof troubled souls such as that of Eric and Dylan.

Rae, your lack of analyticaland research methods bewilders me on how you landed your current day job.

“We could go dumber.”

-Joe Rogan

 

            My little sister could write this part almost as well as I could. WhatRae is saying in layman is, ‘Sure all rappers hate on women…..but Tylerreeeaaalllyyy hates on women.’ Yeah Tyler is obsessed with hating women, that’swhy he gets along so well with his lesbian producer Syd. I cannot seem to getany female between the ages of 18 and 22 to tell me they hate Tyler. Every girlI introduce his music to loves how hard it is, the same way they like men whoare strong, fearless, and can protect them from anything. Let’s pause to letRae keep her Atkin’s inspired lunch down. An interesting pattern: All of thosewho seem to believe that Tyler hates women all seem to be old women. Women whodo not understand how the new generation interprets music and take lyricalcontent literally. Oh hey, by the way, when the airwaves are filled with thesame auto-tuned, synthesized, weak-ass examples of “rap” songs, do you notexpect there to be a very large following of the not? Even at the extent oftemporarily sacrificing a couple morals for a few minutes?        I’m not abig fan of repeating myself, but due to the lack of mind capacity required towrite an article like this, I’ll make an exception. Actually scratch that, goback a page or two and read what I wrote about Tyler’s producer. Now do youstill think he’s a homophobe? I’m sure if you ask him he’ll answer, however, I’msure he and rappers such as Eminem, as well as every kid who gets sent to theprincipal’s office, have had it up to here with explaining that the term “faggot”is used by the new generation to describe someone who does not appeal to them. “Faggot”as a term used to describe gays is almost exclusively used by the “parentalgeneration,” the parents of the new kids on the block. Someday, everyday userswon’t know the gay definition of “faggot” unless they look it up on somehistorical word culture website. Until then I’ll take the fact Rae writes forthe San Fran Weekly and let her have her gay bashing perspective. Seeing asthough it doesn’t seem like hating on all minority groups will be departinghip-hop anytime soon, listen to it, enjoy it, or turn it off.

         

Reasons Why We Can’t Technically Hateon Rae:

I couldn’t callthis an objective article without adding this part.

1.      Maybe they don’t provide thefundamentals of researching and providing evidence in an argument in theBritish education system?

2.      She used to blog exclusively forJustin Timberlake (the other end of the spectrum,) so she must naturally hateon people like Tyler and assume that her horse is high enough to do so withoutdoing proper research?

3.      Tyler’s American accent makes it difficultto identify his context?

4.      She’s old and should probably stickto covering classic rock and pop shows? I mean I really tried to figure out herage but she won’t list her birth year (which means she’s old) on the FB andfinished grad school in 2000….

5.      Upon hiring maybe SF Weekly admiredher passion in place of brain capability?

 

In conclusion, I hope Rae learned her lesson and Idare her to write a response to this. I also hope she will keep within her jurisdictionin the music blogging community and remembers that when writing a persuasion,or strongly-opinionated reaction to something, make sure to actually do someresearch, such as looking into the fan base, interviews, the facts and pleasedo so objectively. Thanks for taking the time of day, and I apologize about the formatting, the original has excerpts from Rae's blog between sections. For the original email me at nalarson4@gmail.com.

 

“ I’m stabbing anyblogging faggot hipster with a pitch fork.”

 

Written by:

 “Tall, white, handsome, smile’s big as fuck.Big fake tits the only way to get my dick up.”

-Neecholas

dis bitch is dumb
dis bitch is dumb

is this person retarded ha. DO RESEARCH. the worst article ever.

my mom
my mom

about    2. He's a Rampant MisogynistHave you heard wheels its a love song that Tyler made so i wouldn't take Transylvania serious its about him being a vampire.

david
david

this was very well written, the author is very clever and chooses/uses words with impressivce effect

Ofwgkta12345
Ofwgkta12345

You're feeding into him. It's all a joke and you're the punchline. He wants you to say all this. This article is the but of Tyler's joke. Grow some balls man.

Arlene Mejia
Arlene Mejia

You're stupid; I'm a female teenager and afan of O.F.  I know to not take what hesays literal. He’s entertaining andhas several clever verses. Its funny how you talk about his "random disclaimer"being half-ass in Radicals but forget to include, “I’m notsaying to go out and do some stupid shit, commit crimes. What I’m trying totell you is, do what the fuck you want. Stand for what the fuck you believe inand don’t let nobody tell you what the fuck you can’t do.” Also, you claim, “He’snot keen to gays, Either” How old are you? You’re criticizing Tyler for saying “faggot”when you yourself cannot use the appropriate terminology, it’s homosexual notgay. You’ve clearly know nothing about O.F. and I find it absolutely ridiculousfor SF Weekly to let arrogant dumbasses like you blog invalid information ontheir website. OFWGKTA DGAF! 

your mom
your mom

cool story bro LOOOL fucking pathetic little shit cunt you are for bothering to type all this bullshit up that no body cares about. 

mr shutthefuckupdumbjounalist
mr shutthefuckupdumbjounalist

Gays will flip out on the simplest insult yet no gays have come foward sayin they hate tyler the creator for gay bashing because THEY KNOW HES A FUCKING KID WHOS SAYIN A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM K OWS THIS EXCEPT YOU. Youre probably the same guy who watches the daily show and takes jon stewart as if it was actual news.. its satire you prick

nbamagicfan
nbamagicfan

@savagescience frank ocean is bi in fact and representing ignorant feelings is purely ignorance. Sure sometimes we think racist things....it is the fact that we choose not to act upon them that keeps us from actually being racist. It's one step at a time and he somehow has managed making taking steps backwards in black stereotypes "cool" to some people because not giving a fuck is somehow cool. Aside from that you must have read over the portion regarding that having "friends that are gay" and "women around you" does not justify the points he made.

darekd124
darekd124

@Hembleciya13 If his music sucks than why does he have millions of fans and more money than you will ever make in your lifetime

hoochiemane
hoochiemane

@harleyquinn.and.pois That's exactly why I do not approve of Tyler, like you said it's all a "gimmick". Too many people these days try too hard to be "different" it is really pathetic. Most of the time it is not artistic, it is all for the attention. For example he goes on insulting the LGBT community, Bruno Mars, and B.O.B. Okay if you do not like there music that's fine but if you wish someone to crash and die in a plane accident, that is just a little too far. And if you say he is just saying that, then why didn't he literally just say he didn't like their music? It's all for the attention. B.O.B and Mars were just blowing up and he wanted to be different and reject them. Simple as that.

alicered84
alicered84

@David Sticks and stones. Its not the names that people call you that are important its your deeds. People do spread alot of hate with words and deeds admittedly, they can't seem to help it. It's in their nature. Name a person you know that doensn't hate some group because of their fear or feelings of superiority or insert reason. I think some emotive music is positive because its a creative way to release an emotion without physically harming anyone. 

andrewxu10
andrewxu10

@David 1. you just compared Tyler the Creator to MLK Jr. 2. Lighten up. Life is a joke to him and he's living in the moment. He's a kid who loves skateboarding and rap, and he's just trying to have fun doing that while making a living. 3. Maybe if you knew he has never drank or smoked weed in his life, you would look at him differently,

Neecholas
Neecholas

On paper you are so very ignorant. However, I must say you carried validity up until the end when you attempt to make america feel like asses for releasing their inner darkness by listening to Tyler and his successors.....like eminem, busta rhymes, ol' dirty bastard, method man, red man, tupac shakur, Christopher Wallace.

I'm guessing that when I say biggie smalls you say I LOVE IT WHEN THEY CALL ME BIG PAPA.

When in all reality I think of lyrics from songs such as beef...the 10 crack commandments....and dreams.

Clearly if you haven't taken related lyricists into perspective you haven't taken the rest of liberal arts into perspective with artists such as

Quentin Tarantino ----pulp fiction/resevoir dogs

......

Ignorance

j_marlowe44
j_marlowe44

Your gay.. and you mom sucks dick.. OFWGKTADGAF... BITCH!!!!!!!!!!

nope
nope

@Thelink1337 Please learn how to at least type properly, before you showcase your rampant sexist opinions. Half of your comment I couldn't even understand, are you 11 or something?

nope
nope

@Thelink1337 

david
david

impressive**

Marie
Marie

It's called copy and paste. 

Marie
Marie

Maybe you should do your research on Sara Quin's letter about Tyler, The Creator. It's pretty hypocritical to tell someone to "please do your research before you speak on a subject" if you're going to rebuttal with an equally non-researched response. (By the way, Sara Quin is a lesbian.) 

hoochiemane
hoochiemane

@darekd124 @Hembleciya13 That is such an ignorant answer. So I'm assuming you think Justin Bieber is one of the best artists ever? Well that's your logic since he has a huge fan base, has millions, and has won many awards. In addition to your logic, he's better than Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick Lamar, and almost every artist out there. Yeah you're a real genius.

hoochiemane
hoochiemane

@andrewxu10 Really, do you honestly believe he has never smoked weed or drank alcohol? Well, I Barack Obama say that he is an ass. I must be Obama since I said it and you read it on the internet right?

hoochiemane
hoochiemane

@Neecholas I mean it is true. Watch the Boondocks episode "Return of the King". Honestly MLK worked hard to have his people equalized and do you honestly think he would be happy with the black community today? Most still live in ghettos and those who do not act like they do. I witnessed this first hand, in HS I live in a good community. However, the black students who are well off still act ghetto and most I cannot understand the nonsense that comes out their mouth. It's sad, their parents probably wanted them to grow up in a nice community but it seems the black pop culture thinks it is cool to smoke weed, deal drugs, and get bad grades. There was actually a freshman when I was a senior in HS who already got arrested and started to rap. He already ruined his whole high school career and resorted to rapping.  I could not understand anything he said and when I came late to school (Senior year), he and his friends would be going in the opposite direction to go smoke weed. Then someone else in my grade, his parents are lawyers and he would still act as if he was from the ghetto. Listen to Kendrick Lamar and you will see what I am talking about too. I honestly feel bad when I see some minority families with young children. Black pop culture sets standards on how people should act and it's terrible. Will they be lucky enough to not fall into the stereotype or will they be stuck in the ghetto forever?

neecholas
neecholas

........the one dude on here that sides with the author gives the weakest props. Grow a dick David, or go back to blogging about the low carb parfait you sucked down to feel better about yourself.

Mkwilliams3
Mkwilliams3

Sara Quin said it best: "When will misogynistic and homophobic ranting and raving result in meaningful repercussions in the entertainment industry? When will they be treated with the same seriousness as racist and anti-Semitic offenses? While an artist who can barely get a sentence fragment out without using homophobic slurs is celebrated on the cover of every magazine, blog and newspaper, I’m disheartened that any self-respecting human being could stand in support with a message so vile.As journalists and colleagues defend, excuse and congratulate ‘Tyler, the Creator,’ I find it impossible not to comment. In any other industry would I be expected to tolerate, overlook and find deeper meaning in this kid’s sickening rhetoric? Why should I care about this music or its “brilliance” when the message is so repulsive and irresponsible? There is much that upsets me in this world, and this certainly isn’t the first time I’ve drafted an open letter or complaint, but in the past I’ve found an opinion – some like-minded commentary – that let me rest assured that my outrage, my voice, had been accounted for. Not this time.If any of the bands whose records are held in similar esteem as Goblin had lyrics littered with rape fantasies and slurs, would they be labeled hate mongers? I realize I could ask that question of DOZENS of other artists, but is Tyler exempt because people are afraid of the backlash? The inevitable claim that detractors are being racist, or the brush-off that not “getting it” would indicate that you’re “old” (or a faggot)? Because, the more I think about it, the more I think people don’t actually want to go up against this particular bully because he’s popular. Who sticks up for women and gay people now? It seems entirely uncool to do so in the indie rock world, and I’ll argue that point with ANYONE.No genre is without its controversial and offensive characters- I’m not naive. I’ve asked myself a thousand times why this is pushing me over the edge. Maybe it’s the access to him (his grotesque twitter, etc). Maybe it’s because I’m a human being, both a girl and a lesbian. Maybe it’s because my mom has spent her whole adult life working with teenage girls who were victims of sexual assault. Maybe it’s because in this case I don’t think race or class actually has anything to do with his hateful message but has EVERYTHING to do with why everyone refuses to admonish him for that message.It is not without great hesitation and hand wringing that I enter into the discourse about Tyler, the media who glorifies and excuses misogyny and homophobia, and the community of artists that doesn’t seem remotely bothered by it. I can only hope that someone reading this might be inspired to speak out. At the very least, I will know that my voice is on record."

And Tyler did not: "If Tegan And Sara Need Some Hard Dick, Hit Me Up!"

...Truly a lyrical genius. 

crazy
crazy

 If a woman or gay person gets offended by Tyler, they can turn the DAMN MUSIC OFF. That fucking simple.

Ofwgkta123456
Ofwgkta123456

Feeding into it. I love Tegan and Sara and Tyler. Tyler doesn't mean it. You're a faggot. FAGGOT! Was that so bad? They say Cracker and bigger in every rap song so racism is treated the same way as homophobia in the rap music industry, it's ignored. Stop trying to ban free speech and take the dick out of your ass.

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