The FBI Classifies Juggalos as a Gang (of Idiots?)

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Well, it's official. According to the FBI's National Gang Threat Assessment for 2011, Juggalos -- those loud-mouthed, clown-faced, Insane Clown Posse-loving idiots -- are a real live gang. They're listed as a "Non-Traditional" gang on the Contents page, but they're a gang nonetheless. And if you read this thing, the FBI is clearly genuinely concerned about the crimes this moronic team of face-painters are committing around the country. And here we were thinking they were just simpletons with a love of terrible, terrible music and playing dress-up!

According to the report, Arizona, California, Utah, and Pennsylvania already recognize Juggalos as a gang. The report also states that "Transient, criminal Juggalo groups pose a threat to communities due to the potential for violence, drug use/sales, and their general destructive and violent nature." In addition: "Open source reporting suggests that a small number of Juggalos are forming organized subsets and engaging in gang-like criminal activity, such as felony assaults, thefts, robberies, and drug sales."

Well, if this video is anything to go by -- aside from talk of a stabbing early on -- these Juggalos all seem like harmless imbeciles to us. Harmless imbeciles on tons of drugs, but pretty harmless nonetheless. How scary can you possibly be when you're yelling "woop-woop" every three seconds?



We will say that if you read the FBI report, it seems like it's the Juggalos' general penchant for boneheaded-ness that the Bureau is most concerned about: "Most crimes committed by Juggalos are sporadic, disorganized, individualistic, and often involve simple assault, personal drug use and possession, petty theft and vandalism," it says. It also refers to their "disorganization and lack of structure." 

Then it says -- and this is the real giveaway that sheer idiocy is afoot -- "In January 2010, two suspected Juggalo associates were charged with beating and robbing an elderly homeless man." Um. Who robs old homeless men? Hey, Juggalos! Homeless people don't have anything! That's why they're homeless! Jeez, Louise, what did you get? A bag of empty bottles? An old blanket? These people have zero common sense!

So are Juggalos a gang? Or are they just stupid? We probably think it's more of the latter. Insane Clown Posse isn't the first band to have a really committed, obsessive fan base, and it won't be the last. These fans just happen to love a band with a lot of hateful, offensive and downright dumb lyrics that encourage fans to think that behaving in a manner as animalistic as possible is the coolest thing on Earth. It's no wonder ICP attracts violent knuckle-draggers.



The problem is that, as the FBI's own website states, "Some 20,000 violent street gangs, motorcycle gangs, and prison gangs with nearly one million members are criminally active in the U.S. today. Many are sophisticated and well organized; all use violence to control neighborhoods and boost their illegal money-making activities, which include robbery, drug and gun trafficking, fraud, extortion, and prostitution rings."

That sounds far more organized and expansive than anything the collective brain power of the Juggalos could muster. We're not defending their idiotic criminal activity, we're not defending their musical preferences, and we're not defending their fashion choices. We are, however, wondering if the FBI hasn't got something better to do than chase Juggalos. And we're pretty sure the cops could handle this lot on their own -- it's not like Juggalos are hard to spot, after all.
 
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jkmcclendon2011
jkmcclendon2011

fuck all you bitches the fbi is fucking stoupid for labeling us a gang in the first place. were one big family and if we wanted to we could be the biggest gang and take over no problem. we are in every city and every state woop woop.  you dont like our music bitches please i dont like yours soundslike chicken scratch and thats that. haha.  yall bitch ass fbi want to label us as a gang, im gonna label you  . and im gona spread the word. if you wanna know wat im gonna say about ya youll just have to come find me. you ant nothing but some brown nosing bitches. you like to get into every ones buisness 

jkmcclendon2011
jkmcclendon2011

fuck all you bitches the fbi is fucking stoupid for labeling us a gang in the first place. were one big family and if we wanted to we could be the biggest gang and take over no problem. we are in every city and every state woop woop.  

wendychong90
wendychong90

I'd just like to point out we are NOT wannabe gang members!! Tht is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard! I'm 32 years old, I have 2 children, do u really think I'm that infantile to want to be associated with a gang?! The answer is no... This whole FBI naming us a gang thing is completely obsurd!!! And why are you being so judgemental on what music we like to listen to? If anything, UR small minded and judgemental!

Couchwj
Couchwj

Juggaloes (and their violent music) never found it acceptable to persecute somebody for being different or having different strengths and weaknesses. It was usually the "well-adjusted" kids that sabotaged my school life because teachers would put me on the spot to answer questions after multiple kids answered wrong. If you ask me, I think you resort to calling them stupid because you were one of the repressed people that hate those who break the chains of conformity because YOU regret conforming out of fear that you wouldn't fit in so you resent those who think for themselves.

Couchwj
Couchwj

For what it is worth, I have been a Juggalo since 1998. In sixth grade I was given an IQ test and scored 139, I have always tested 99th percentile (99.9 specifically). My affinity for knowledge and non-conformity actually led to being ostracised by my peers. I have met many hyper-intelligent Juggaloes as well as "below average" intelligence Juggaloes. The "normal" students felt it was acceptable to assault me, destroy my homework, steal my school supplies, and generally persecuted me for choosing to read books and Popular Science/Mechanics. The

Daniel Gargoyle
Daniel Gargoyle

 Right. Juggalos are NOT a gang. You illustrate the point perfectly. Clowns exemplify extremes with intentionally comical intent. Hobo clowns are not really hobos. Fire man clowns are not really fire men. Mimes are not really trapped inside invisible boxes. Juggalos are not really gang members. Performers perform, audiences are entertained, fans bond with others who share their interests. Believing that a Juggalo is a real gang member is like believing that stage Magicians perform real magic. Some intellectually underdeveloped people believe the illusion and do dumb things. The reality, however, is that a Juggalo is as much a gang member as Tom Hanks is an American soldier. Most Juggalos know this. The biased media that feeds on fear to make money likes to focus on the minority of self proclaimed Juggalos that don't understand that it's just a show. Clowns should make us laugh and can sometimes make us think. ICP is succeeding at both. Everyone who takes this stuff seriously needs to admit they have a shadow and develop a sense of humor about it. MMFWCL! Whoop Whoop!

M4NI4C
M4NI4C

Juggalos are so fucking gay. You niggas are just a bunch of retarded wanabe gang members. Ya aint about nothing. Your little weak gang wouldnt last in Cali. Where theres real killers. Not little fucking kids dressed in clown suits thinkin they sick by Hurting people that dont mean nuthing. If anything you guys should beef wit a REAL gang and see how long you last

Jessie Arbuckle
Jessie Arbuckle

What I find funny..is that he said saying "whoop whoop" is idoitic..but the idiotic thing isn't that we say it, it's that he couldn't even spell it right. Damn,

Monkeybone1283
Monkeybone1283

Hello I am a juggalo and just because some juggalos aren't the smartest people out there doesn't mean we are all idiots I am a hard worker working a full time job caring for animals at a local animal shelter I have a wife and a son and yes I am a juggalo so you don't like our kind of music that doesn't make us idiots and as for the message in the lyrics of icp songs " don't hate, don't beat your wife, don't be racist, yeah I guess those are stupid...really? Oh and we are not a gang we are a family that accepts each other how we are but I guess that is an idiot to you.

HALLaSTON
HALLaSTON

Fuck that shit! JUGGALO FOR LIFE!!!! woop! woop!

Lichterderdeutschland
Lichterderdeutschland

Why don't you quit talkin shit over the Internet. I bet you my IQ is far superior to yours.

Amy Adams
Amy Adams

If you took one look at me, you would not think that I'm a Juggalette, but I am. I will love the music and lyrics of ICP and related bands until the end of time, and I actually understand what the lyrics REALLY MEAN! Anyone to take their lyrics so seriously is an idiot. My big point here is, you can't always judge a book by it's cover. You can't look at someone with paint and automatically say, "Oh hey, that's a true Juggalo!" Chances are, you may be wrong, that may be one of those few "fans" that take the lyrics word for word and beyond serious... the ones that are out on the street getting us all known as a gang because they want to do utterly stupid things! You also can't look at someone who to you appears to be normal or whatever and say, "s/he would never be a juggalo, to perfect for that," because that's something that has been said about me... yet I am a huge fan of ICP, Twiztid, Dark Lotus, DJ Clay and the rest of them.

JUGGALO'S ARE NOT A GANG!

Ninjettekitty
Ninjettekitty

This is Bull it not all of the Juggalos the ones who say they are part of the family, and commit crimes should be label as their individual self not making everyone stereotype Juggalos. Why is it that when a Juggalo commits a crime all the Juggalos get called a gang but if a another follower of a different band commits a crime and calls themselves a cool nickname they just look at it like oh that's nothing. Wow America has come to be hypocrites.

I'm down with the clown till um dead in the ground! Whoop Whoop!

Sexilover4life33
Sexilover4life33

Damn this whole "juggalos are a gang" is fuckin pissing me off. I cant go one day wid out being judged. I say fuck them haters in this world! i aint tradeing the juggalo family for NOBODY!!! them haters can FTFO!!!!

Devin
Devin

Wow haters piss me the fuck off all of u haters can go eat a dick is the only thing u know how to do best is hate on us los and lettes so y don't u bitches shut the hell up mmfwcl mcl whoop whoop juggalo from Maine

Angelblader23
Angelblader23

TThanks to all the los and lettes dealing with the fucked up goverment and the stupid presidents to protect us mmfwcl whoop whoop

Angelblader23
Angelblader23

Look we dont all do stupid idoicotic shit alot of us have familys we r supporting and still live by the wicked clown ways and live and die by the hatch hate us and judge us but remember what Jesus said he with out sin may cast the first stone upon me so those of u who want to judge just remember jesus knows who sinned and who hasnt so start castin the stones i am read and so is the juggalo nation so let it be done

Djhudson33
Djhudson33

(Violent J) Let me ask you this about this life we live And let me try to swerve some of this attention you give To them distant ass relatives over in Hampton and If they really miss you so much Why don't they just call you then? (Muthafucka) If you wanted blood, would you still have love? Or infact does the blood make you think you have to love? Look I probably love my family more then anybody here But my homies are family too Third cousins get outta here Who was you with when you got tatoos? Who was you tripping with when you did them mushrooms? Who the fuck threw up all over your car? And then felt worse then you about that shit in the morning? (Friends ya'll)

(Shaggy 2 Dope) Who loans ya money, homie? Who owes ya cash? Who taught you how to use the bong for the grass? I don't know much but I gotta assume When ya hit ya first neden, ya homies was in the room

(Chorus) We talking about HOMIES HOMIES We are muthafucking HOMIES HOMIES!!! We are juggalo HOMIES HOMIES!!! HOMIES HOMIES (Man that's my dogg)

(Violent J) Have you ever had a job that you truly dispise? Like I dunno maybe dishwashing or fucking flipping fries Then you got this boss who thinks he's the don mega Cause he the head manager (Cheap Smelly Fry Digger) All you could vision is ya'll beating him down Your homies standing on his back while you kicking his head around But responsibility is there, I can't lie tho I would a been plucked his fucking eyeball out with a chicken bone Crazy as fuck I'll rip your peircings off And now my homies are holding me back so I don't look soft

(Shaggy 2 Dope) When you snuck the car out who did you get? And when you got caught, who you blame that shit? Hoping you relax while they scratch yo balls Homies are talking about the hereos

(Chorus) We talking about HOMIES HOMIES We're muthafucking HOMIES HOMIES!!! We are juggalo HOMIES HOMIES!!! (yeah yeah yeah)HOMIES HOMIES (hey hey hey) If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!!

(Jamie Madrox) Me and my homies stay tight like a noose And if you step to one of us you betta step to the whole crew I never knew that I could depend That I could have some friends that's down til the very end Well that's my home boys, excuse me, my family And when we conquer the world We macking on the galaxy cause skys ain't limited And we ain't finished And if my homies gonna ride ya know I'm with it

(Monoxide Child) Puff it and pass it and I give it to my homies ya'll Hit it and quit it and then I give it to my homies ya'll I got the world around my finger with my homies ya'll And everything is obsilete unless I hear my homies call We worldwide, were homies around the planet Sticking together like zippers on Michael Jackson's 'Beat It' jacket They got my back like a tat for that, I love ya'll Hanging till we old and grey like grandpa (Psychopathic)

(Chorus) HOMIES HOMIES!! We are muthafucking HOMIES HOMIES!!! We are juggalo HOMIES HOMIES!!! HOMIES HOMIES!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! Fuck Off!!! Fuck Off!!! (ICP and Twiztid giving props in the background) We talking about HOMIES HOMIES We are muthafuckin HOMIES HOMIES We are juggalo HOMIES HOMIES HOMIES HOMIES If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! If ya don't like me ya can Fuck Off!! Fuck Off!!! Fuck Off!!!

this is what family are. please exscuse the laungae..only copy i could find im very sorry

DJHudson33
DJHudson33

thats b.s. we are not idiots!!! we are a family of wickid nation! juggalos will always have ur back, for the bad or good no matter what we're always there. i've been down since i was 9 and im almost 17 now. i've never fitted in with anyone but this dark carnival family. im a juggalette scruby till the day i die. we dont rep any color. we're just a bunch of homies spreading the wickidness. we bring mad clown love. i dont see why you all have to hate!! look around the world. its a juggalo nation. life is a big party but, who had my back whehn i got caught up,,,,,,,,THE JUGGALO FAMILY!!! WHOOP WHOOP MMFWCL!! 

Alexus Vowels
Alexus Vowels

Well you know what I'm a juggalette and reading this just pisses me off like if you don't like it well get the fuck over it!

Rabbidcat98
Rabbidcat98

This is a new level of stupidity for the U.S. Government . So much stereotypical bullcrap going on here I can't believe my eyes , not only is this making the government stupid the writer is looking pretty bad at this point !!!! I am 13 years old , my best friend Laura introduced me to the kick ass band that is ICP  . We have never commited a crime , we obey the law . Yes we paint are faces and say Whoop Whoop and even drink Faygo . Does that make us bad people ? Hell no ! Goths , they were black and supposably "hate everyone" , does that make them a gang as well ? Yeah I thought not . The government doesn't approve of anything that doesn't meey there standards of "normality" . SCREW BEING NORMAL ! ICP responds to this crap with smiles on Shaggy 2Dope and Violent J's faces , because they know the truth . This is no gang , its a spiritual , Juggalo family . Faygo runs deep in our veins , I will always be down with the clown !@twitter-81884498:disqus Sincerely ,A Pissed Off Juggalette ♥

Vampvanderbor
Vampvanderbor

You are an idiot, the fact of the matter is, is just because some people commit a crime under the name of a juggalo, doesnt make them one, and it sure as hell doesnt mean the rest of us are gang bangers, Calling Juggalos a gang is retarded... Ok fans of justin beiber and twilight go out and commit crimes to im sure, all twilight freaks and biebtards are now a gang, yeah blows your logic away dont it? do us all a favor and learn about us more, and get to know some before you judge. Oh and before you say we never do any good check this out, Facebook fan page, named All Juggalos, a fan page just for us juggalos, is right now holding a charity drive for a homeless family whos house burnt down. Research before you write your reviews and trash good people.

JuggalettePinky
JuggalettePinky

Juggalos and Lettes are NOT a gang were just like everyone else. the ones who try to get us the bad rep is the ones who say their down but they rly arent.

LiL jOkeR J!
LiL jOkeR J!

seriously?? i been down since birth mothafacko, and im fuckin proud! sayin that all juggalos are dumb asses and peices of shit is fuckin ignorent! lets say a 15 year old got prego....does that make every 15 year old a slutty peice of shit?? (not sayin that they, or any, are) NO! its the same fuckin thing! yes, many "juggalos" killed people, stole, raped, the fuck if i know what all else, but does that make all of us like that?? hmmmm, uh yea NO!!         

                      sincerly Lil Joker J!

Jeffrey Sorenson
Jeffrey Sorenson

ok so let me get this straight....Im  juggalo so i must be a moron who cant even stumble down the street or talk cuz i always yell WHOOP WHOOP. well let me set this story straight, I am a very God fearing person who would give you the shirt off my back in the middle of a snow storm  if you needed it. I have a wife and am a spiritual leader in my community here in eureka ca, but then again im a juggalo so that therefore makes me a gang-banger right away....ok you should do more research before you put down a group of people... 

strangerthenmost
strangerthenmost

I sincerly believe that your arguement would be more effective if you would leave out the insults. So Juggalos dont conform to youre standards, to discriminate because of their taste in music and how they live makes you, and everybody else look stuck up and pig headed. Its because of closed minded people that juggalos exist, youre the reason we band together. You call it a gang, I call it a bunch of homies taking over the world. Dont hate just because the people you consider normal, or intelligent, dont give a shit about you. Go ahead and alienate the Juggalos, its not like we dont live with it everyday.

Scaryfukin Larry
Scaryfukin Larry

The Bible says, you can tell the wise by their dark sayings,and that would be Juggalos, all the way, No matter how violent the words the message is positive because the punchlines have more meaning then just one, To, even know whats being said on a later album, you'd have to know the others well, Real, Juggalos, are above reproach, and, is an over mature audience,Yeah Juggalos smoke weed as a recreation, and then go do productive things or even just some other extracurricular activity, Like, listin to music, draw, write, music, build things, party with other juggalos that are like brothers and sisters, Real Juggalos keep it covenant, and their righteousness dont go below the Pharaisees. Pharaisees used inhabitants of the earth and basically chilled with their people telling stories its in the Bible, Since im on the subject, "weed" is in the Bible, it says that, it grows on both sides of the river, and it has twelve good uses, and its fruits will heal all the nations. The fruit just means the stage the plants in, its fruiting producing in this case the buds, But also produces more durable material for things like clothes, and blankets ,furniture, thread for sewing, you can recycle the paper from it more times than you can with the paper made from trees that take 100 yrs to grow, Marijuana grows 25ft trees in just few months and serves the purpose of trees when we breath air marijuana produces the oxygen when we exhale the marijuana takes the carbon dioxide in then gives back more oxygen for the planet to breath, Marijuana can also help the country financially by selling marijuana packs of ciggarettes 20 ciggarettes equaling 1 oz of top grades of Marijuana the higher the grade the higher the cost but you can also sell single cigarette to those which cant afford the oz or rather pack of say g13 or purple kush many many many different breeds and strands so nobody can monopolize because their always better or people who only afford a cheaper single then the kind you prefer to keep or can afford to invest in see a real life bussiness in any and all hands hell your 15 yr old son could make your family rich because its a product widely availble and very much in demand even people who got some buy more speaking of which im going to end this message with WOOP X 2 now imma go back to my people and smoke PEACE TO ALL WITH CLOWN LOVE and PISS ON ALL THAT DONT and any mature audience would realize thats a figure of speach

Daniel Money
Daniel Money

Because some fans of ICP commit crimes does not mean that all fans of ICP are criminals. Sometimes black people commit crimes. Are all black people criminals? Sometimes people claiming to be Christians commit murder. Are all Christians murderers? Some Mexicans are in gangs. Are all Mexicans gang members? Some women teachers molest under age students. Are all female teachers child molesters?

Darkfallenangel999
Darkfallenangel999

This is yet another one of the governments FBI scare tactics. The government is included on this as well, no doubt. Otherwise, why would they be classifying a large group of ICP fans as a gang, when there's REAL gangs out there? I listen to ICP but I don't consider myself a jugalette or anything. However, what they are doing to these fans are pure discrimination. Does that mean if I decide to wear face paint for Halloween, that I'm going to get arrested for it? Holy hell, I sure hope not. Just because one "juggalo" does a crime, doesn't mean they're ALL a gang. America definitely has some bigger things to work on, hmm...I don't know, the ECONOMY? This isn't going to help. They're going to put a bunch of tax payers money into researching this bullshit and capturing them. Seriously? The federal's are so stupid. It's sickening on whats on the news today. Either some type of justice isn't being dealt with or it's dumb shit in this category. America should be trying to fix the economy instead of worrying about a few crimes. Let the police deal with that. To fix the problem, you have to know what started it. America has a shitty economy>governments shitty and corrupted>most people are affected by the corruptness of the government>most people act upon being affected. In this case, it's a group of music fans. How pathetic. 

As for the idiotic face paint...I think it's awesome! At least it has artistic value unlike the stupidity of the feds.

boondox
boondox

to be honest and this is in my own words and context "if a large group containing  specific qualities such as music violence and drugs is so labeled as a gang because of a small portion of the large group ."."then african americans  are a gang them selves in the  meaning that the fbi has labeled and footed the bill as .examples are as follows"   statistics show that 1 in 3 african americans has done time in a corrections facility  for drugs or violence 1 in ten has committed a violent crime on an innocent person"  you see when we put these stats against a bunch of  icp fans "juggalos it makes it a racist statement but in fact its just factual comprising point being theres bad in all groups especially law-enforcement and religious groups  so in the end gang or not we are all human unless of course like my self and jeremy jackson  are from the planet mars then well get along haha peace yall whoop whoop

Whitey Brown
Whitey Brown

I try to avoid speaking of the poor, homeless and uneducated this way. Look with your eyes not your ego

randyfleming
randyfleming

They're subhuman mutations and a good argument for 'abortion on demand'..Juggalos were involved in a 'grisly murder' at a closed construction site , up in Seattle , a few years back. After the killing , they (Juggalos) repaired to a Christian 'drop in youth center' ( 30 yrs and under!) in Seattle's Belltown District , to shower the blood off and 'brag' about it.

ChopChopSF
ChopChopSF

Thesepeople are like hella stoooopid!

TheHauntedHouseGuy
TheHauntedHouseGuy

Sawtelle_robert raises a very good point here, I take personal offense to the constant reference to us as Juggalos being stupid, idiotic, simpletons, and of course knuckle-draggers. I am a very proud Juggalo, I also happen to have a 4.0 gpa which I have maintained since I started college and am about to graduate with on top of my perfect attendance record. I have never, nor do I now have a desire to commit a crime for any reason, least of all because of a song or a group of entertainers. See the problem I have here is not necessarily the fact that I have been insulted but more that the person doing the extremely biased and slanderous writing is a journalist. Aren't you supposed to report on things of this kind in a completely objective manor? If I were in charge of a magazine and any of my employees wrote something so one sided on a public matter that also happens to insult a large number of my readers then I would fire them immediately. You sir need to learn how to report or write on a topic with all of your readers in mind not just the ones you personally agree with. Your insults are unprofessional and ignorant in their own right. So that being said I leave not with the departure that you deserve but rather with the one that ICP themselves would likely approve of and that is simply this: Sincerely,                                                           A loyal, intelligent, proud, and dignified fan of the Psychopathic Records Company, and the entire Juggalo collective. Just fans and family, not criminals... 

PsychopathicMusic
PsychopathicMusic

Wow, this is crazy. Juggalos are not a gang, true juggalos are family.

Brock
Brock

Haha, so funny.

It's not very surprising that a group of people who are obsessively devoted to a band as horrifically awful as Insane Clown Posse would all be sub-100 IQ, profoundly stupid, quasi-violent morons, but at least they have the sense to know Tila Tequila is an abomination to society.

Jeremy Jackson
Jeremy Jackson

yeah and all bloggers are narcissistic, sarcastic shut-ins with no life. they all weigh 300 lbs and have greasy faces.  it's the only job they could ever get because it requires no training and plenty of self-righteous bullshit.  you might be able to be a radio talk show host if you could take the hot pocket out of your mouth for two fucking seconds.

sorry just wanted to stereotype like you did. now i feel dirty and cheap. juggalos are some the most hardworking, friendliest people i know. and im glad to be one of them.

Amanuesis
Amanuesis

That's quite possibly the dumbest thing i've ever read. So following your "logic", if some whack job shoots an abortion doctor, the rest of the movement should get over being vilified because, hey, you choose to associate yourself with him right? I'll bet you think all muslims are terrorists to don't you? After all, if you associate...you get the point. Or do you?

John O. Holmes
John O. Holmes

I am one of the founders of one of the largest Juggalo websites on the net. At this point as an American all I can do is hang my head in shame after reading this. I really hate to inform the FBI but on our site (which we have video and text chat rooms) we have members from every walk of life from homeless (yes homeless people can get internet access too) to blue collar workers to members of our own military serving in Iraq!! Yes our own military serving our country in A WAR ZONE!! Out of the 2 years we have ran our sites we have had to ban MAYBE 10 people for hate, which by the way we do not tolerate hate in any form. Yet I can not count the number of people who have come on who have needed help. Not help from committing violence but from being the subject of violence at the hands of people who discriminated against them. To those who do not understand what it means to be a Juggalo or Juggalette it means a support group of peers when you need someone to be there to help you through hard times. We do act as a "Family" in the capacity of someone to lean on. There has been many of incidents where someone has logged on to the site who wanted to commit suicide and several of our long time members have helped them through their problems. As to Juggalos discriminating against Gay or Lesbians is way off several of the Juggalos and Juggalettes I know are gay, bi-sexual, or transgendered which we proudly support.       To the simple fact of the FBI now classifies us as a gang, can we get real. In any (and I do mean any) group there will be those who give a group a bad name, there will be trouble makers, there will be those who are out to further their own agenda through violence and criminal activity. This does not mean the group as a whole is a criminal group. I recall after hurricane Katrina that several of the remaining members of New Orleans Police Department committed acts of violence, theft and even murder for their own gains. Those members of New Orleans PD have or are now standing trial, yet by the FBI's own guidelines of if a few out of a group commit crimes then the group as a whole should be classified as a  gang then all Police departments should be held to the same standards. Same should apply to churches when the pastor molests a child, or members of government when they take "kickbacks" or bribes. As a teenager I had extensive experience with gangs (all-be it this was almost 20 years ago now) and Juggalos hold nothing in common with Gangster Disciples, Bloods, or Crypts. We are more akin to the hippies of the 60's and 70's than anything else as a group in whole. Most (not all) do believe in legalization of marijuana, which as of my last check polls showed over 50% of Americans shared that same view. As for "hardcore" illegal drugs I can only speak for our site which we do NOT condone in any way and which most of our 6000 members agree with. We believe in love and peace not violence and robbery, we believe in support not hate or discrimination, and in these things most of our 6000 members agree as well. As a site yes we have had our own problems with peoples views of Juggalos and even with views of smaller sites of Juggalos. This only furthers the idea not all Juggalos are alike and not all have the same views. Yet I would say as being one of the largest groups on the internet that by percentage we show a good representation of Juggalos as a whole. Which by the way our biggest complaint against us is we are an "ADULT ONLY" community and most of the complaints and "hate" sites refer more to the appearance of some of our members being over weight or unattractive in their view than anyone's behavior.  Even Violent J of ICP puts out a yearly letter of tolerance and love among Juggalos and how the violence and hate sickens him.      In closing all I can say is if you believe Juggalos are a "Gang" please come check us out we are AdultJuggalos.net and I extend that invite to the FBI as well. Much Clown LOVE!!! 

Daniel Money
Daniel Money

I have been a fan of ICP for about ten years. I do not commit crimes. I've never hurt anyone. I do not use drugs. I have never thought of myself as a Juggalo. I watch horror movies and comedies. I watch documentaries about social injustice. I can watch anything I want in a theater, on TV or online and no one cares. Yet as soon as I admit to enjoying horror-comedy music I get shunned and looked down upon.

ICP's lyrics are supposed to be a funny and ridiculously exaggerated reaction to the offensive actions of morally deficient individuals such as bigots, racists, cheating romantic partners, etc. The idea is that a person with pent up rage and hostility in connection with social ills that never seem to be effectively resolved by those in charge can listen to these lyrics, know they are not alone, LAUGH about it, calm down and get on with living. ICP have put out several songs about the beauty of life and about not wasting the time we have in this incredible universe. That is their real message.

ICP does not create violent people. Violent people just happen to like ICP. I could propose to Christians that the way they practice their faith would be different if they based their beliefs on the teachings of Moses alone. Their bible has a second part which completely changes the context of the first half. It is the same with ICP fans. If they don't listen to ALL of the songs they miss out on what ICP is really about.

All of this being said, the foolishness of the FBI to declare Juggalos as a gang is so embarrassing that it makes me want to paint my face up and commit crimes just to spite them. Listening to ICP made me relax and kept me in my home enjoying the "family" in private. The government's idiocy riles me up and makes me want to take action against it.

But I won't. I will instead just put on my headphones and chill. I can stay cool for now, but if the FBI presses this issue... Not every member of the "family" is a "Juggalo". Not every clown wears identifying face paint or masks. I advise against starting a witch hunt against individuals who are already showing signs of not being able to take the repression any more.

brethren133697
brethren133697

I am much like you, as I was tested in November of last year while I was in the ninth grade, and received a scored 134, being in the ninety-eighth percentile, and many of the people who exclude me from their groups are also the ones who have trouble in school, and the ones who stereotype Juggalos as being un-intelligent, even though participation in a certain culture or, in this case, counter culture, can by no means determine ones intelligence.

wendychong90
wendychong90

That's fine, we don't want to be associated with gangs. who do you think you are BIG man?!! Keep ranting, it's not like your gonna change the world or anything, your just another voice that won't get heard

Daniel Money
Daniel Money

If a murderer claims to be a Christian does that mean all Christians are murderers? There are several biblical passages that encourage Christians to torture and kill those who are non-believers. Christians tend to dress alike and wear symbols and get tattoos supporting their ideas. By the reasoning applied to labeling Juggalos as a gang Christians should be labeled as a gang also.

Personally I think neither should be so labeled. There are, unfortunately, bad people in every group. That does not make the whole group bad.

Actually, if you really pay attention to the lyrics of ICPs songs you might realize that the message there is the same as Christianity's message. Evil is punished, goodness rewarded, the meek inheriting the earth, belief in miracles, etc. You should all be going to the same church! You should be equally outraged when sick individuals commit crimes under your name. We should all be disgusted that the FBI have nothing better to do than enact modern day witch hunting against innocent people.

Rae Alexandra
Rae Alexandra

This is an opinion piece. If I wrote an opinion piece in a "completely objective manner", it would cease to be an opinion piece. I appreciate all your other input, however.  

randyfleming
randyfleming

Precisely!..This outfit 'New Horizons' , I call them 'Children of the Corn'..Feral youth.'Lord of the Flies' redux.

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